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'angry rantings of drunk bloggers'


Oppenheimer

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One man won't be welcome on the internet again is the broadcaster Andrew Marr, who has dismissed bloggers as "socially inadequate, pimpled, single, slightly seedy, bald, cauliflower-nosed young men sitting in their mother's basements."
The BBC's former political editor, Andrew Marr, fired a broadside at the online community and insisted it won't replace journalism. What do you think?

While I think there is a certain truth to his comment on social inadequacy driving people behind the keyboard rather than down to the pub, I can't say I have any opinion about whether political blogs such as P.ie attract "pimpled, single, slightly seedy, bald, cauliflower-nosed young men" - are you such a person? (I am not)

Added Link here..... Marr hits out at 'angry rantings of drunk bloggers'
 
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Think he has got it in one as just look as the crap thats posted on here with slur after slur on anybody and everybody with little in the way of fact.

In 5 years forums such as this will cease to exist.
 

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"pimpled, single, slightly seedy, bald, cauliflower-nosed young men"

Eh.....


 

Tomas Mor

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Its just because the likes of him and other media are exposed and threatened that he speaks thus.
 

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It won't replace news journalism, but it could end up replacing media commentary, unless the commentariat ups its game and offers something better.
 
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It won't replace news journalism, but it could end up replacing media commentary, unless the commentariat ups its game and offers something better.
Don't think it will replace that because within 5 years you will be required to put your name to anything you post and will be held accountable which is why I see forums like this dying.

IF I was in DC's shoes i would be looking for a buyer in 18 months.
 
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I thought the whole point of internet forums was so as not to bore your mates down in the pub, it works for me ;-)

honestly, pick a few of the quality blogs out there and compare them to the local politburo (BBC/RTE) reports over the last few years. Who called it right?
 

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Don't think it will replace that because within 5 years you will be required to put your name to anything you post and will be held accountable which is why I see forums like this dying.
I wouldn't confuse the sheer mass of stupidity that gets posted on the internet, with the relatively small amount of really defamatory material. I've no problem with people being held accountable for the latter, but that's no justification for denying the right to anonymity. After all, stupidity isn't a crime. In fact, the right to be stupid is a cornerstone of democracy.
 

sic transit

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Its just because the likes of him and other media are exposed and threatened that he speaks thus.
If he was a two bit hack yes sure. Given that he knows a thing or two about quality journalism he has a point. Certain personality types do better online and many are exactly as he described. Angry and drunk is wonderful combination providing you can still see the keys. That said forums at least have a degree of interaction the banal rubbish on Twitter and Facebook claims to have.
 

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According to Prince, the Internet's 'completely dead'.
... He went on to say: “The internet’s like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated.

Prince also criticised the advent of gadgets and computers: “All these computers and digital gadgets are no good.

"They just fill your head with numbers and that cant be good for you.”... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I have to say I'm tending towards agreeing with him. Since the internet has been irrevocably commercialised, and is looking like it will keep tending in that direction, I believe that it has lost the power to say anything meaningful that is significant or salutary for cultural life. For sure, I hope and expect that one or other of its mutations will evolve a worthwhile existence in the future, but for now, I am looking forward myself to weaning myself off the habit, cold-turkey or otherwise, one of these days...
 

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Think he has got it in one as just look as the crap thats posted on here with slur after slur on anybody and everybody with little in the way of fact.

In 5 years forums such as this will cease to exist.
You've posted your fair share of CRAP also.!!
 

Catalpa

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The BBC's former political editor, Andrew Marr, fired a broadside at the online community and insisted it won't replace journalism. What do you think?

While I think there is a certain truth to his comment on social inadequacy driving people behind the keyboard rather than down to the pub, I can't say I have any opinion about whether political blogs such as P.ie attract "pimpled, single, slightly seedy, bald, cauliflower-nosed young men" - are you such a person? (I am not)
Drink & Journalists are common bedfellows

Mr Marr has been around the block enough times by now to know that one!:p
 

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In fact, the right to be stupid is a cornerstone of democracy.
Excellent observation!

IMO sites like this are full of political types wishing to make a point or people with very specific interests. At their best they can be useful in arriving at a balance in an argument. At worst they can be someone ranting on or defying sense and defending the indefensible.

They also allow people access to a wider audience and that usefully empowers them. Some have very specific skills and points of view. Some have information that they feel a need to disclose, for whatever reason. I think it is more complex than Andrew Marr believes.

Most chat room sites are puerile, but a skim through good sites can give you a feel for a problem or the current thinking and sometimes you can read between the lines and get a sense of the mood of a country.
 

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I thought the whole point of internet forums was so as not to bore your mates down in the pub, it works for me ;-)

honestly, pick a few of the quality blogs out there and compare them to the local politburo (BBC/RTE) reports over the last few years. Who called it right?
Well, to be fair - the blogs called it every which way so some of them were going to be right. In addition they are not held nor do not hold themselves to the same standard of reporting vis á vis credible sources so do not need to be so cautious in their approach.
 

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Is this the same Andrew Marr who used "rumours circulating on the internet" as an intro to asking Gordon Brown if he was taking anti-depressant pills?
 

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The BBC's former political editor, Andrew Marr, fired a broadside at the online community and insisted it won't replace journalism. What do you think?

While I think there is a certain truth to his comment on social inadequacy driving people behind the keyboard rather than down to the pub, I can't say I have any opinion about whether political blogs such as P.ie attract "pimpled, single, slightly seedy, bald, cauliflower-nosed young men" - are you such a person? (I am not)

Added Link here..... Marr hits out at 'angry rantings of drunk bloggers'
He can't be talking about me.
I'm married and over 60.
As for the rest of it.....well...
 

Sean O'Brian

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While I think there is a certain truth to his comment on social inadequacy driving people behind the keyboard rather than down to the pub
The winters are long in this country and not everyone drinks. However, I wouldn't dismiss what he has to say entirely.

This article by Armond White on the damage blogging has done to film criticism is interesting:

Discourteous Discourse
 
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"socially inadequate, pimpled, single, slightly seedy, bald, cauliflower-nosed young men sitting in their mother's basements."

Hmm... reasonably fair I suppose.

Now, in the blue corner we have the journalists. Anyone fancy having a crack at describing our journalists?

Where's Sidey when you need him?
 

Fantasia

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One man won't be welcome on the internet again is the broadcaster Andrew Marr, who has dismissed bloggers as "socially inadequate, pimpled, single, slightly seedy, bald, cauliflower-nosed young men sitting in their mother's basements.".html"]Marr hits out at 'angry rantings of drunk bloggers'


bald young men? .. and how many basements are there in the British Isle and Ireland - I would say less then 1%.
Marr is just spouting off his frustration that MSM is losing out to the internets
 
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