Another lot doing a "Pamela" disappearing act

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Report from today's Examiner on yet another Nigerian family conveniently
doing a disappearing act after asylum claim rejected.

School prefect and family on run over deportation order | Irish Examiner

Apart from the bleeding heart liberal reporting, quoting at length from their supporters ( and nothing from the court decision ) which I suppose is to be expected, what is interesting are the figures at the end of the report showing the largescale failure by the Authorities to enforce deportation orders. Makes a mockery really of the whole system, really.

Are there any figures on the numbers of these illegal overstayers who are still in the country with their children?

The people who are hiding these people are themselves committing criminal activity and should be prosecuted.
 


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Report from today's Examiner on yet another Nigerian family conveniently
doing a disappearing act after asylum claim rejected.

School prefect and family on run over deportation order | Irish Examiner

Apart from the bleeding heart liberal reporting, quoting at length from their supporters ( and nothing from the court decision ) which I suppose is to be expected, what is interesting are the figures at the end of the report showing the largescale failure by the Authorities to enforce deportation orders. Makes a mockery really of the whole system, really.

Are there any figures on the numbers of these illegal overstayers who are still in the country with their children?

The people who are hiding these people are themselves committing criminal activity and should be prosecuted.
It's the governments fault for being pathetic though, not the families. can't really make a mockery of a system which is as flawed as it is.

I have watched a few episodes of the UK/New Zealand/Australian border control shows to see how they operate with illegals.

Mercilessly is the answer.

We are a soft touch for sure, but they might as well let the kid do his leaving cert.

Are there any figures on the numbers of these illegal overstayers who are still in the country with their children?
You can work it out from the last paragraph in the article.
 

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Irish people tend to be weak and pathetic, hence the bleeding heart brigade. They should be financially punished.
 

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It's the governments fault for being pathetic though, not the families. can't really make a mockery of a system which is as flawed as it is.

I have watched a few episodes of the UK/New Zealand/Australian border control shows to see how they operate with illegals.

Mercilessly is the answer.

We are a soft touch for sure, but they might as well let the kid do his leaving cert.



You can work it out from the last paragraph in the article.
Not sure that one can. However, if they have their families with them, it makes for a very large number of undocumented illegal immigrants residing in the State. How do they support themselves - presumably they cannot work and from whom do they receive financial support?

There is clearly a large support network here which should be tackled comprehensively. Anyone found to be hiding or supporting them should face the full rigour of the law - although in the Republic that seems not to be very much, anyhow, given the pathetic enforcement and general reluctance created by a climate of political correctness among our political classes and generally mindless "meejia".

Agree with you that the Government have made a complete shambles of the whole thing - a bad joke really. Still these are migrants abusing the system and they should not be exonerated at the expense of genuine asylum seekers.
 
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The proportion of deportations actually carried out appears small. Why is this? Is it legal challenge, disappearance, or lack of determination on the part of the authorities?

I am very surprised to see that many deportation orders are made, but few are executed.
 

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and lets not forget that the 'alternative government' have widely opposing views on the solution to the problem.......

i wonder what the ff/labour government will do......


or indeed, as suggested by a previous minister,,,set up a table at the airport, listen to the '**** and bull'and send them back on the next plane.....
 

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The fact that they receive accommodation rented from private landlords by the government might have something to do with it, no immigrants, no rent.
 

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The number of Nigerians deported following failed asylum applications outnumbers all other nationalities.

In 2009 Justice Minister Dermot Ahern signed 939 deportation orders, of which 236 were carried out. Figures for the five years between 2003 and 2008 show 2,431 of 8,960 deportation orders were acted on.
 

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We’re asking for Bola to be allowed stay and finish his Leaving Cert, and if possible allow the family to be reunited back in Ireland.
I wonder if those making this request have also volunteered to shoulder the cost of accomodating this family and paying for the education of the children for the ten and a half months between now and the end of the Leaving Cert exams.

He said the decision was very disappointing because the family had made their life in Ireland and the children had spent a huge portion of their childhood here.
I'd be sympathetic if the family had stayed in Ireland for six years awaiting their first decision but if they were refused asylum and chose to take appeals, they knew that, if those appeals were unsuccessful, they would still be subject to deportation once they'd exhausted appeals.
 

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The fact that they receive accommodation rented from private landlords by the government might have something to do with it, no immigrants, no rent.
i agree,thats the major problem,a lot of well connected people are making a lot of money from this.
 

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Has PI gone on the run too?

This underlines the urgent need for an end to the practice of the State tipping-off failed asylum-seekers as to their date of deportation. It guarantees they will go on the run. Such a provision was in the abortive IRP Bill. It must be legislated for by the next GE. Come on Biffo: ram it past the Greens - they won't dare force a GE which will surely wipe them out. :)

This case also underlines the justification for mandatory detention of failed asylum-seekers in humane accommodation.

And to any Irish citizen that is considering harbouring these illegals: that should also become a crime.
 

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Come on Biffo: ram it past the Greens ........


Or better still.......ram it past the Irish Times, the rag that has been allowed to set our immigration policy for more than a decade. Historians will never be able to get their heads around that one.
 

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I'd be sympathetic if the family had stayed in Ireland for six years awaiting their first decision but if they were refused asylum and chose to take appeals, they knew that, if those appeals were unsuccessful, they would still be subject to deportation once they'd exhausted appeals.
These decisions need to happen much faster. The whole process from first decision to final appeal should not take longer than one year, at the most. Allowing it to drag on so long is simply unacceptable for all concerned.
 

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Or better still.......ram it past the Irish Times, the rag that has been allowed to set our immigration policy for more than a decade. Historians will never be able to get their heads around that one.
Any evidence for that wild assertion or was that just a PIDOMA utterance?
 

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Any evidence for that wild assertion or was that just a PIDOMA utterance?
Lisbon II, Nice II, deportations: the political-elites always pander to them (Citizenship Referendum the exception). This in spite of them being exposed as inhabiting an Ivory Tower in the latter case and the 2007 GE which proved they represent only a Dublin 4, PC-elite. :roll:
 

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Lisbon II, Nice II, deportations: the political-elites always pander to them (Citizenship Referendum the exception). This in spite of them being exposed as inhabiting an Ivory Tower in the latter case and the 2007 GE which proved they represent only a Dublin 4, PC-elite. :roll:
So no actual evidence then of the direct input of the IT into immigration policy nor any evidence of them being given any power or authority in this area. So just PIDOMA and paranoia then. Sad, although I didn't expect much more from you.
 

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So no actual evidence then of the direct input of the IT into immigration policy nor any evidence of them being given any power or authority in this area
And their successful campaign against the IRP Bill.
 

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Nigerians here are getting to be as bad as the Irish in America.
 

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Any evidence for that wild assertion or was that just a PIDOMA utterance?

Just hang on there and I will furnish you with a decade's worth of propaganda from a succession of IT "Migration Correspondents", the most recent of whom has himself emigrated.
 


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