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Another Taxpayer funded junket for Healy Eames


SKELLY

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The country is in administration. There will be more cuts to education. Quinn went back on his promise re third level fees.

Yet there is plenty of money for Healy Eames and 26 overpaid principals to go on a taxpayer junket to China for a week to learn about the culture.

What are we talking here, 4/5k a head maybe?

Local Fine Gael Senator, Fidelma Healy Eames, is to lead a week long educational trip to China

The Senator and a delegation comprising twenty six educators, principals and deputy principals leave tomorrow morning


With Chinese being introduced to the junior cert in 2014 the purpose of the trip is to research the teaching and learning of the Chinese language and culture

Senator Healy Eames says it's important teachers understand the language and culture
HEALY EAMES TO LEAD EDUCATION DELEGATION TO CHINA | Galway Bay FM | galwaynews.ie



How many Chinese people live in Ireland? Just as easily asked them about Chinese culture!
 

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The country is in administration. There will be more cuts to education. Quinn went back on his promise re third level fees.

Yet there is plenty of money for Healy Eames and 26 overpaid principals to go on a taxpayer junket to China for a week to learn about the culture.

What are we talking here, 4/5k a head maybe?



HEALY EAMES TO LEAD EDUCATION DELEGATION TO CHINA | Galway Bay FM | galwaynews.ie



How many Chinese people live in Ireland? Just as easily asked them about Chinese culture!
Obscene!
 

ergo2

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She is a Senator. She is ENTITLED to live high on the hog at tax payers' expense.

Why do you little people still query the actions of this great lady. Have you no respect for your betters ffs?
 

MacO'velli

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The country is in administration. There will be more cuts to education. Quinn went back on his promise re third level fees.

Yet there is plenty of money for Healy Eames and 26 overpaid principals to go on a taxpayer junket to China for a week to learn about the culture.

What are we talking here, 4/5k a head maybe?



HEALY EAMES TO LEAD EDUCATION DELEGATION TO CHINA | Galway Bay FM | galwaynews.ie



How many Chinese people live in Ireland? Just as easily asked them about Chinese culture!
The question really is how this benefits the country or the state in any way, the answer is that it doesn't. Just more hypocrisy and gombeenisim from the ruling Junta.
 

borntorum

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These incessant junkets for councillors and worthless senators were laughably unjustifiable in the times of plenty. Now they are obscene.
 

wombat

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The question really is how this benefits the country or the state in any way, the answer is that it doesn't. Just more hypocrisy and gombeenisim from the ruling Junta.
Now this is the kind of stroke that I get upset about
 

Grey Area

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The country is in administration. There will be more cuts to education. Quinn went back on his promise re third level fees.

Yet there is plenty of money for Healy Eames and 26 overpaid principals to go on a taxpayer junket to China for a week to learn about the culture.

What are we talking here, 4/5k a head maybe?



HEALY EAMES TO LEAD EDUCATION DELEGATION TO CHINA | Galway Bay FM | galwaynews.ie



How many Chinese people live in Ireland? Just as easily asked them about Chinese culture!
Yet there is no money for people like this?



It's ok to ignore the law if you can't afford to comply with it - Dept. of Health
 

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How onn Earth will researching how the Chinese language is taught to Chinese people help in any way to teach the Chinese language to Irish people

They would be better suited to ensuring the Irish language is taught properly in schools but I guess Dingle would not be as attractive a junket
 

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The country is in administration. There will be more cuts to education. Quinn went back on his promise re third level fees.

Yet there is plenty of money for Healy Eames and 26 overpaid principals to go on a taxpayer junket to China for a week to learn about the culture.

What are we talking here, 4/5k a head maybe?

HEALY EAMES TO LEAD EDUCATION DELEGATION TO CHINA | Galway Bay FM | galwaynews.ie

How many Chinese people live in Ireland? Just as easily asked them about Chinese culture!
What I'm wondering is, why do presumably well educated people need to have their hands held by an inexperienced, rural politician on a visit to China?

Is she fluent in Mandarin?
 

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In the private sector, when they stopped sending people on jollies/training courses, they would keep the students at home and bring in one trainer.
Why couldn't a Chinese person be brought over to teach these junket junkies what they need to know, at a fraction of the cost to us the taxpayer.

No fun in that, thats why.
 

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No idea why we need to go over there in such numbers. Send a smaller recruiting team over to hire chinese nationals to teach the language here. Hire someone who's headed up a school over there teaching Chinese as a second language to head the project.

We clearly need to have it on the syllabus, and it's clearly worth investing in, but I don't see the benefit of this trip.
 

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If only we had someone in Ireland they could consult..

Dr. Ye Liu obtained her MA in Comparative Education in 2005 and her PhD in Comparative Sociology in 2010 from Institute of Education, University of London. Before arriving at the UCC School of Asian Studies in April 2012 as Lecturer of Contemporary Chinese Studies. She is also the Co-ordinator of BA in Chinese Studies and the co-ordinator of Chinese language courses. Dr. Ye Liu was a research fellow at China in Comparative Perspective Network, London School of Economics and Political Science.
Name: Dr. Leung Wing-Fai

I joined the School of Asian studies in September 2012 as Lecturer in Contemporary Chinese Studies. I currently teach Film, Media and the Creative Industry in China since 1979; The Sinosphere: Culture and Modernisation in Greater China; China and Globalisation; Chinese Business and Negotiations.
Professor Fan Hong is the Director of School of Asian Studies, the Irish Institute of Chinese Studies and the Confucius Institute at University College Cork, Ireland. She obtained her BA and MA at universities in China and her PhD at Strathclyde University in Glasgow, Scotland . She was Professor in Chinese Cultural Studies at De Montfort University in England before she moved to UCC in June 2006.
Lin Xu is an Associate Professor at Hainan University. He joins the UCC School of Asian Studiesas a visiting Associate Professor from September 2011 to August 2013. He got his MA in EnglishLanguage and Literature in Nanjing Normal University in China and Diploma in Applied Linguisticsin Nanyang Technological University in Singapore. His main research interests include translationstudies, linguistics and inter-culturalism.
Wang Xiaoxia is a visiting lecturer from Qufu Normal University, China. She obtained her MA degree in East China Normal University, Shanghai, China. She joined the UCC Confucius Institute as a language instructor in September, 2011. Her main research interests include Chinese Grammar; Chinese Phonetics and teaching Chinese as a foreign language.
Li Shuang , Master Degree of Literature, majoring in Comparative Literature. She graduated from Department of Chinese, Shandong Normal University in 2008, since then she has worked as a Chinese language teacher in College of International Education at Shandong University and Western Literature teacher in Jinan Vocational College. Her main research interests include Modern Chinese ,Chinese Grammar ,Chinese Language Teaching Method, History of Chinese Literature, Western Literature ,Comparative Literature and Culture and so on. As a Provincial Tester of Mandarin of China, she can adjust the teaching according to the students’ learning styles and their nationalities.
Fan Jiayan is a visiting lectuer from SCHOOL OF CHINESE AS A SECOND LANGUAGE of Peking University, China. She obtained her Master's degree of Teaching Chinese as Second Language in Peking University, China. She joined the UCC Confucius Institute as a language instructor in September, 2011.
Mr. He Junping is a visiting lecturer of Chinese language with the School of Asian Studies. He obtained BA degree in English Education in Hubei Institute of Education in China, and MA in Linguistics in Wuhan University of Technology. His home employer is Hunan First Normal University. It is his interest in language acquisition that led him to the United States in 2008 and here in Ireland in 2011, teaching Chinese language and culture as part of his research.
University College Cork(UCC): School of Asian Studies Staff Academic Staff
 

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If they want to find the best way of teaching a new language they could look at how Irish is taught and do the exact opposite.
 

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Does anyone know who is paying for this junket? (I know the taxpayer but via who)
 

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Abolish the Seanad.
 

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Healy Eames - Ireland's answer to Nadine Dorris.
 

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The country is in administration. There will be more cuts to education. Quinn went back on his promise re third level fees.

Yet there is plenty of money for Healy Eames and 26 overpaid principals to go on a taxpayer junket to China for a week to learn about the culture.

What are we talking here, 4/5k a head maybe?



HEALY EAMES TO LEAD EDUCATION DELEGATION TO CHINA | Galway Bay FM | galwaynews.ie



How many Chinese people live in Ireland? Just as easily asked them about Chinese culture!
My small little assessment as I worked for more than a few years as a language teacher and had some fleeting brush with Chinese:
It is one of the difficult languages... a large percentage of those who begin tend to drop out.
A bit like learning English... you have to learn the Mandarin word as spelt alphabetically and as pronounced, the corresponding english meaning and then the chinese symbol. Chinese is a tonal language, you sort of sing it in a way. Foreigners learning English have to learn the word- meaning the spelling and the pronunciation.
Of course words have more than one meaning and so there is more an overlap as in learning any language.

Difficult to see what principals and assistant principles are doing out there unless they are going to chuck their demanding jobs in order to learn Chinese.
Best way to learn a language and culture is to arm yourself as best you can by preparing the basic words and then head out and live in the country. but this would take months or years. Learning one foreign language tends to drive out the previous one. so if Senator Healey Eames and the twenty six delegates are very diligent and learn their Chinese irregular verbs for the week in question, this would all be for the cat if next month she and the delegates head off to the Hindu Kush for one week learning Urdu.
Tsai Tsien Ma
 
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