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Anti-Semitism In The Nationalist Community


Golah veNekhar

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Hopefully the cops pick up Hitler guy, it'll be interesting to see what he's got to say for himself in the cold light of day.

Incitement to hatred.
If you were arrest everyone who broke hate speech laws in Nordie pubs the prisons would be over flowing.
 

Golah veNekhar

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The orangies agree with the oppression of others and associate with the oppressors .... it’s why they support Israel and it’s why they supported the South African white apartheid state ...
Truth be told most Prods don't think or much about anything outside of their own county. You do get a handful though of extremely creepy "Christian Zionist types" who would make tough souls involuntary shudder with the sheer level of their creepiness and some people who are straight forward sociopaths or psychopaths you are into Zionism because they love the idea of brown children being tortured and burned alive to death. I think the sole purpose of the OP was to say "look everyone themuns are bigots to!".
 

AhNowStop

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Yeah but this is the thing in part Ulster Scots and indeed in part descended from Ancient Israelites who were exiled by the Assyrians. However the Romans never exiled Jews. Ulster Scots are genetically linked to Palestinians especially if they are Muslim while they are not linked to Khazars, Berbers, Kurds and what not who make up racially speaking today's "Jewish people".

The below are the people connected by blood to the Ulster Prods:

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Sure ye’d know rightly ... spitting image ....:whistle:
 

Golah veNekhar

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Sure ye’d know rightly ... spitting image ....:whistle:
I think that young girl most definitely has the face of an Ulster Scot.

I love Islamic Jihad in Palestine and the Al-Quds Brigades, Dr Fathi Shaqaqi is one of all time greatest heroes.
 

Glenshane4

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It is consistent for Ulster Prods, a race of bible-thumping settler tyrants to support similar tribes such as the White South Africans and the Zionists.
 

Glenshane4

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FFS children in Ireland were being taught that the Jews crucified Christ well, into the '60's , 20 years after the Holocaust and up until Vatican 2 when it was suposed to have been done away with. The same people who deny that there's any anti-semitism are usually the same people who deny sectarianism in the republican/nationalist movements. Ireland is not unique it has to be said.
The first time that Paisley's people contested an election, the candidate was Paisley's wife, Eileen. The election was a council election in a ward in North Belfast. The opponent was a candidate for the Ulster Unionist party. He was a Jew. The Paisley campaign became anti-Jewish.
 

Glenshane4

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The ugly face of some in the CNR community's anti-semitic views has been raised yet and again in a video showing nationalists spouting anti-semitic abuse has been released...

So perhaps some of our CNR posters can explain why yez have such historical and current Anti-Semitic beliefs?...
It is none of your business. You are a member of Ulster's tyrant tribe.
 
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The clowns in that Bogside pub are ignorant muppets who obviously cannot differentiate between Jews and the government of Israel, and confuse bigotry with the championing of the cause of a genuinely oppressed minority.
On a secondary but related point the Irish republican movement should tread a bit more carefully before involving itself in the complex quarrels of other nations and peoples. Last year Sinn Fein were erecting the flag of Catalonia here in the north, unaware that one of the main incentives propelling the independence movement there was its relative wealth compared to the rest of Spain, and the determination of the separatists to keep it all for themselves. Hardly the motives of socialists and egalitarians.
Things are never as simple as they seem.
 

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The clowns in that Bogside pub are ignorant muppets who obviously cannot differentiate between Jews and the government of Israel, and confuse bigotry with the championing of the cause of a genuinely oppressed minority.
"The clowns" perfectly know connection of the Jewish state with the Jewish people. It's not a big secret.
 

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The clowns in that Bogside pub are ignorant muppets who obviously cannot differentiate between Jews and the government of Israel, and confuse bigotry with the championing of the cause of a genuinely oppressed minority.
On a secondary but related point the Irish republican movement should tread a bit more carefully before involving itself in the complex quarrels of other nations and peoples. Last year Sinn Fein were erecting the flag of Catalonia here in the north, unaware that one of the main incentives propelling the independence movement there was its relative wealth compared to the rest of Spain, and the determination of the separatists to keep it all for themselves. Hardly the motives of socialists and egalitarians.
Things are never as simple as they seem.

I would have thought there would have been a much bigger reaction from the people in Doire as to the erection of Parachute regiment flags on certain dates rather than the rants of a few pub patrons which seem to have gathered more publicity than the initial antagonism re the erection of the killer regiment flags.......as you said things are never really that simple.:D
 

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The first time that Paisley's people contested an election, the candidate was Paisley's wife, Eileen. The election was a council election in a ward in North Belfast. The opponent was a candidate for the Ulster Unionist party. He was a Jew. The Paisley campaign became anti-Jewish.
Interesting .... any links to info on this ?
 

Golah veNekhar

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The clowns in that Bogside pub are ignorant muppets who obviously cannot differentiate between Jews and the government of Israel, and confuse bigotry with the championing of the cause of a genuinely oppressed minority.
On a secondary but related point the Irish republican movement should tread a bit more carefully before involving itself in the complex quarrels of other nations and peoples. Last year Sinn Fein were erecting the flag of Catalonia here in the north, unaware that one of the main incentives propelling the independence movement there was its relative wealth compared to the rest of Spain, and the determination of the separatists to keep it all for themselves. Hardly the motives of socialists and egalitarians.
Things are never as simple as they seem.
Palestine is a very clear cut case of good versus evil. The problem is that the Shinners supports the traitors and corrupt trash of Fatah and not Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Palestine (IJP are the best of the best).

Either you believe in the right of nations to self-determination or you do not. If you do you should support the Catalan demands.
 

james toney

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Interesting .... any links to info on this ?

The first was the 1966 Belfast Corporation by-election in which the Ulster Unionist candidate was the late Harold Smith, a prominent Jewish businessman.
An election leaflet for his opponent in the campaign, Mrs Ian Paisley (now Baroness Paisley), stated that:
"The Ulster Unionist Party are boasting that he is a Jew. As a Jew he rejects our New Testament, Protestant principles, the Glorious Revolution and the sanctity of the Lord's Day. Mr Smith is not, and cannot be, a traditional unionist, the Protestant Throne and Constitution are nothing to him."


The leaflet is quoted both in Ed Maloney's Paisley: From Demagogue to Democrat (2008) as well as in the earlier biography of Ian Paisley which Mr Maloney wrote with Andy Pollak.


No member of the Paisley family has ever disowned the views expressed in that leaflet.


The other incident was a documentary made by the Jewish journalist Jon Ronson about a trip to Cameroon he made with Ian Paisley.


Mr Ronson captured on film a car journey in which Ian Paisley repeatedly quoted to him William Joyce's wartime radio call signal "Germany calling. Germany calling." Mr Ronson wrote later that this was tactless.


Some people might think that it was a good deal worse than tactless - indeed to use the call signal of a supporter of Nazism in order to mock a Jewish man seems more like anti-semitism than a mere lapse of taste.

Throughout the trip, Ronson says Paisley made a number of anti-Semitic comments, directing many of his remarks towards the filmmaker himself: "He had three nicknames for me — one was ‘the Jew’, another one was ‘my Jewish friend’ and the third one was ‘my circumcised friend.'”
 

Antóin Mac Comháin

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Nationalists supporting the Palestinian anti-colonial struggle came first.
Nope. 2013 was the point in time that the people formerly involved with Youth Against Racism in Europe when they were the Militant Tendency openly embraced Hamas, but they weren't Republicans, they were Left Wing Unionists, but you knew that already..
 

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The first was the 1966 Belfast Corporation by-election in which the Ulster Unionist candidate was the late Harold Smith, a prominent Jewish businessman.
An election leaflet for his opponent in the campaign, Mrs Ian Paisley (now Baroness Paisley), stated that:
"The Ulster Unionist Party are boasting that he is a Jew. As a Jew he rejects our New Testament, Protestant principles, the Glorious Revolution and the sanctity of the Lord's Day. Mr Smith is not, and cannot be, a traditional unionist, the Protestant Throne and Constitution are nothing to him."


The leaflet is quoted both in Ed Maloney's Paisley: From Demagogue to Democrat (2008) as well as in the earlier biography of Ian Paisley which Mr Maloney wrote with Andy Pollak.


No member of the Paisley family has ever disowned the views expressed in that leaflet.


The other incident was a documentary made by the Jewish journalist Jon Ronson about a trip to Cameroon he made with Ian Paisley.


Mr Ronson captured on film a car journey in which Ian Paisley repeatedly quoted to him William Joyce's wartime radio call signal "Germany calling. Germany calling." Mr Ronson wrote later that this was tactless.


Some people might think that it was a good deal worse than tactless - indeed to use the call signal of a supporter of Nazism in order to mock a Jewish man seems more like anti-semitism than a mere lapse of taste.

Throughout the trip, Ronson says Paisley made a number of anti-Semitic comments, directing many of his remarks towards the filmmaker himself: "He had three nicknames for me — one was ‘the Jew’, another one was ‘my Jewish friend’ and the third one was ‘my circumcised friend.'”


Well researched James, thanks for that but.... got to say..... no surprise to me sir.
 

Antóin Mac Comháin

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Which came first? Did Protestants first start identifying with and supporting Israel? Or did Nationalists start identifying with and supporting Palestinians?
Connolly ultimately polled 431 votes, while the winning candidate achieved 1,424 votes.

An address made by Connolly “to the electors” and “fellow workers” of Wood Quay can be read online here

“…remember how the paid canvassers of the capitalist candidate – hired slanderers – gave a different account of Mr. Connolly to every section of the electors. How they said to the Catholics that he was an Orangeman, to the Protestants that he was a Fenian, to the Jews that he was an anti-Semite, to others that he was a Jew, to the labourers that he was a journalist on the make, and to the tradesmen and professional classes that he was an ignorant labourer; that he was born in Belfast, Derry, England, Scotland and Italy, according to the person the canvasser was talking to” - James Connolly Yiddish Election Leaflet 1902

The Irish Socialist Republican Party were the 1st to stand on an Anti-Anti-Semitic ticket and an Anti-Sectarian platform, but with 95% of the membership of that organization drawn from the same community as the Irish Jews, the Greater Liberties, and 230 years of organized labour experience and history to draw on, it's understandable why that was the case.
 

raetsel

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Palestine is a very clear cut case of good versus evil. The problem is that the Shinners supports the traitors and corrupt trash of Fatah and not Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Palestine (IJP are the best of the best).

Either you believe in the right of nations to self-determination or you do not. If you do you should support the Catalan demands.
Few people in Ireland properly understand the issues in Spain. Best to mind our own business, and hope they can sort it out peacefully themselves. Sticking up Catalan flags in northern Irish housing estates in solidarity with the Catalans is about as much good as gifting them a chocolate teapot. It's just useless gesture politics.
 

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It is consistent for Ulster Prods, a race of bible-thumping settler tyrants to support similar tribes such as the White South Africans and the Zionists.
Moi's nat feeling the lurve glenny boy...
 

Antóin Mac Comháin

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On a secondary but related point the Irish republican movement should tread a bit more carefully before involving itself in the complex quarrels of other nations and peoples. Last year Sinn Fein were erecting the flag of Catalonia here in the north, unaware that one of the main incentives propelling the independence movement there was its relative wealth compared to the rest of Spain, and the determination of the separatists to keep it all for themselves. Hardly the motives of socialists and egalitarians. Things are never as simple as they seem.
How trust worthy is the news source, and is it as the picture says, and is there a connection between the pub, and the Museum of Free Derry?

If so does the Museum of Free Derry receive any form of government funding?

If that's the case, why are peoples taxes being used to promote a cultural and heritage enterprise, openly promoting Nazism?

To suggest that Hitler didn't kill enough Jews goes beyond being a muppet, and is as fundamentally flawed as the thinking and comments which led to the murder of people like Rosemary Nelson in the not so distant past, and not so far away, by people not too dissimilar.

Baring in mind that he's a 'play-right', and the 'journo' that's involved, is there a possibility that they have over-egged the pudding in their efforts to sell Northern Ireland as a Sectarian State 'on a plate', and it's all much-a-do about nothing?

If it's fair to blame Paisley for the 'Troubles', it's also fair to blame the 'people who read the books', for telling the 'people who don't read the books,' that it's the Jews fault they are pig-ignorant and blind-drunk on the money they received from their handlers?
 
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