Anti-Semitism now "Official" in Chavez's Venezuela

MoggyMcG

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In Chavez's 10 years in power, the number of registered Jews has gone down from 18,000 to just 9,000. It is not uncommon to see slogans on walls such as, "Hitler did not finish the job!" It reflects the closeness of "Father Hugo" to the celebrated Israel hater, Ahmedinejad, who embraced and welcomed him to Tehran on October 19th just past.
It helps, I suppose, to divert attention from shortages and economic downturn on the domestic Venezuelan front.
 


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In Chavez's 10 years in power, the number of registered Jews has gone down from 18,000 to just 9,000. It is not uncommon to see slogans on walls such as, "Hitler did not finish the job!" It reflects the closeness of "Father Hugo" to the celebrated Israel hater, Ahmedinejad, who embraced and welcomed him to Tehran on October 19th just past.
It helps, I suppose, to divert attention from shortages and economic downturn on the domestic Venezuelan front.
Sources please?
 

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Chavez is not anti-semitism he is anti vicious-capitalism, if some Jews have left Venezuela were they the ones from the banking sector ?
I think Chavez would not have a problem with any Jews or indeed anyone who are working an honest job for the better of society.
 
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Most of this stems from Chavezs' remarks about "those who crucified Christ " which some took to be anti-semitic.
 

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Ant Zionist more like it if anything. By the way Anti semetic implies that he is anti arabist too as they are also a semetic people.
 

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Ant Zionist more like it if anything. By the way Anti semetic implies that he is anti arabist too as they are also a semetic people.
Bollocks !!
 

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Bollocks !!
Of or pertaining to Shem or his descendants; belonging to that division of the Caucasian race which includes the Arabs, Jews, and related races. [Written also Shemitic.]

Semitic language, a name used to designate a group of Asiatic and African languages, some living and some dead, namely: Hebrew and Phœnician, Aramaic, Assyrian, Arabic, Ethiopic (Geez and Ampharic). Encyc. Brit.

semitic: Information from Answers.com

adj.

1. Of or relating to the Semites or their languages or cultures.
2. Of, relating to, or constituting a subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic language group that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, and Aramaic.

n.

1. The Semitic languages.
2. Any one of the Semitic languages.

[New Latin Sēmiticus, from Sēmita, Semite, from Late Latin Sēm, Shem, eponymous ancestor of the Semites, from Greek, from Hebrew Šēm.]

Archaeology Dictionary: Semitic

A general term that applies to a group of related languages rather than a set of recognizable communities. Semitic languages are characterized by the importance of consonants where three are typically used to form the root of a word. Arabic and Hebrew are the two most significant surviving Semitic languages.
 

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Of or pertaining to Shem or his descendants; belonging to that division of the Caucasian race which includes the Arabs, Jews, and related races. [Written also Shemitic.]

Semitic language, a name used to designate a group of Asiatic and African languages, some living and some dead, namely: Hebrew and Phœnician, Aramaic, Assyrian, Arabic, Ethiopic (Geez and Ampharic). Encyc. Brit.

semitic: Information from Answers.com

adj.

1. Of or relating to the Semites or their languages or cultures.
2. Of, relating to, or constituting a subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic language group that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, and Aramaic.

n.

1. The Semitic languages.
2. Any one of the Semitic languages.

[New Latin Sēmiticus, from Sēmita, Semite, from Late Latin Sēm, Shem, eponymous ancestor of the Semites, from Greek, from Hebrew Šēm.]

Archaeology Dictionary: Semitic

A general term that applies to a group of related languages rather than a set of recognizable communities. Semitic languages are characterized by the importance of consonants where three are typically used to form the root of a word. Arabic and Hebrew are the two most significant surviving Semitic languages.
More bollocks.

Now go and get the definition of anti-semitism...
 

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If Jews are leaving this proves nothing unless they are being forced out which is nonsense of course (it's hard enough for Israel to tempt away Iranian Jews who don't want to abandon their homes there), why this unnecessary and unprovoked attack on Venezuela?

To call someone anti-semitic or to use a Reductio ad Hitlerum without appropriate reason is the other side of the mirror to being antisemitic, to use that slur that someone hates Jews or is like Hitler unjustifiably is equivalent to hating Jews, the Venezuelan people deserve protection from such slander and hatemongering.

Do the people who toss those accusations around like candy have no shame? There is REAL antisemitism not linked to the refusal to support a brutal nuclear regime which cannot abide peace with it's neighbours. Many were slaughtered in WW2 during acts of REAL antisemitism, some of them were poor - they were genuine victims... To conflate their experience to resistance to everything Israel represents is to spit on their graves.... Especially as Israel behaves as the real successor state to Nazi Germany with it's obsession with racial hygiene, periodic chants of racial/religious supremacism, total disregard for civilian life not of their tribe and general militant beligerance and bellicosity.
 

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We could also define anti semitism as thus -

a) Smears and impugns the motives of all those who support the human and political rights of Palestinians;

b) Undermines the efforts of Jewish groups and individuals working for Mid-East peace;

c) Stigmatizes perfectly legitimate political opinions and activities."

d) Opposition to the Zionist apartheid state of Israel
 

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You are as thick as shyte.:roll:
That he might be. You might as well be.

Can you explain to me the definition of homophobia? Afterall if you seperate homo and phobia it means fear of humans doesn't? No. It's a word that's been developed for the irrational fear/hatred of homosexuals.

Antisemitism was a word coined to attach to the hatred of the jews (since the late 1800s) and this is what it has been taken to mean up until fairly recently. Why are you trying to change an decades old accepted defintion?

Do you try and convince people that is should be chocolic as opposed to Chocoholic?
 

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That he might be. You might as well be.

Can you explain to me the definition of homophobia? Afterall if you seperate homo and phobia it means fear of humans doesn't? No. It's a word that's been developed for the irrational fear/hatred of homosexuals.

Antisemitism was a word coined to attach to the hatred of the jews (since the late 1800s) and this is what it has been taken to mean up until fairly recently. Why are you trying to change an decades old accepted defintion?

Do you try and convince people that is should be chocolic as opposed to Chocoholic?
No homo comes from the latin meaning 'same' not 'human'.

'Semitic' is a specific word that refers to a location, as they are mainly white skinned Eurasians Israelis are technically less semitic than Palestinians.

What is in a word though? Racial hatred of Palestinians is the same as racial hatred of Jews all other things being equal. I object to the idea that hating on special groups is somehow a more grave offence, the root of how serious hate is is derived from damage caused and the hatred of Palestinians is causing more direct suffering for them than any hatred of Jews in the world so in actual fact even if we do split the words and give antisemitism to the Jews exclusively, Palestinophobia is the more serious problem (of the two) in the world today based on how hate is transfered into suffering (which is the reason why such terms were created and empowered originally - ie to draw attention to persecution, suffering and racism).
 


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