Anti-Trump Site Investigated by DoJ over January riots.

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A website, disruptj20.org, that had apparently been organising protests against Trump has been hit with a search warrant as part of an investigation into the January 20th riots. The warrant requires the webhosting company, Dreamhost, to release all information on the registrant of the domain name and owner of the site, e-mail and other data associated with those involved with the site, databases associated with the site and most importantly for the visitors to the site, the HTTP request and error logs. It is the data from these logs that could be used to identify individual vistors to the site.

https://www.dreamhost.com/blog/we-fight-for-the-users/
https://www.dreamhost.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/DH-Search-Warrant.pdf

The company has challenged the extent of the warrant and a ruling will be delivered on August 24th.
https://www.dreamhost.com/blog/dreamhost-goes-washington/

Dreamhost's opposition motion document makes for interesting reading. It effectively states that the search warrant is too broad and violates legislation dealing with privacy and constitutional amendments.

https://www.dreamhost.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/DH-Opposition-Motion.pdf

This seems to have slipped right by the talking monkeys in the Irish media. Perhaps the technology churnalists didn't get the press release and so were unaware of it. It is an important case and definitely one worth watching.
 


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Seems a pretty reasonable court order.
 

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This seems to have slipped right by the talking monkeys in the Irish media. Perhaps the technology churnalists didn't get the press release and so were unaware of it. It is an important case and definitely one worth watching.
It may be an important case but it hasn't got a lot of coverage anywhere so far, and the concern of right thinking people is that the Trump administration is in the process of violating the civil liberties of over a million of its own citizens by pursuing the warrant. The Trump fascists mightn't want that side discussed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/08/department-of-justice-dreamhost-trump-visitor-logs-million-ip/536886/
FACT CHECK: Did the Department of Justice Request Detailed Information About All Visitors to an Anti-Trump Website?
 

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It may be an important case but it hasn't got a lot of coverage anywhere so far, and the concern of right thinking people is that the Trump administration is in the process of violating the civil liberties of over a million of its own citizens by pursuing the warrant. The Trump fascists mightn't want that side discussed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/08/department-of-justice-dreamhost-trump-visitor-logs-million-ip/536886/
FACT CHECK: Did the Department of Justice Request Detailed Information About All Visitors to an Anti-Trump Website?
They cover so much of Trumps utterances, there probably isn't room or interest for other stuff.
 

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It may be an important case but it hasn't got a lot of coverage anywhere so far, and the concern of right thinking people is that the Trump administration is in the process of violating the civil liberties of over a million of its own citizens by pursuing the warrant. The Trump fascists mightn't want that side discussed.
The problem with the Irish media, specifically most of the people who call themselves "technology journalists" is that they are completely ignorant of Technology and from Arts backgrounds. Beyond recycling press releases, most of them don't have the ability or background knowledge necessary to understand cases like this and these cases also involve legal arguments.

The HTTP logs will provide the IP addresses of each visitor and these IP addresses can then be associated with various ISPs or, in the case of static IP addresses, will identify the owners of the IPs. With the ISPs, identifying users by IP might require some more work but if the e-mail and other activity was disclosed by Dreamhost then the set of IP addresses under investigation could be reduced.
 

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The problem with the Irish media, specifically most of the people who call themselves "technology journalists" is that they are completely ignorant of Technology and from Arts backgrounds.
Well, that didn't take you long...
 

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It's how the Venezuelan president's campaign against opponents started. Bird's of a feather, methinks.
 

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They cover so much of Trumps utterances, there probably isn't room or interest for other stuff.
Like Obama's IRS scandal?

The Left only see with tunnel vision.
 

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I understand these protests are Soros organised and advertised on craigslist in the U.S. If the protesters are being paid as claimed I don't think this is a civil liberties violation at all.
 

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This seems to have slipped right by the talking monkeys in the Irish media.
Never mind. They are keeping us up to date on important trivia from the lives of pass-the-peanut specialists.
 

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I understand these protests are Soros organised and advertised on craigslist in the U.S. If the protesters are being paid as claimed I don't think this is a civil liberties violation at all.
Dreamhost is claiming that the warrant is too wide-ranging in that it seeks information on visitors to the site as well as those directly involved. If you've watched any US legal dramas on TV, this might be considered a fishing expedition.
 

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Never mind. They are keeping us up to date on important trivia from the lives of pass-the-peanut specialists.
And the upcoming programmes from RTE/Pravda zelebrities that nobody will watch. :)
 

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Well, that didn't take you long...
You can always go off and start a thread in the Political Philosophy forum if you find this thread too complicated and full of micro-aggressions.
 

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I understand these protests are Soros organised and advertised on craigslist in the U.S. If the protesters are being paid as claimed I don't think this is a civil liberties violation at all.
They could download a million names, locate them, drag them from their houses and beat them to a pulp and you wouldn't "think this is a civil liberties violation at all"

And of course the obligatory Soros bogeyman stuff as well
Yawn
 

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They could download a million names, locate them, drag them from their houses and beat them to a pulp and you wouldn't "think this is a civil liberties violation at all"
You don't really understand the whole HTTP logs/IP addresses thing, do you?
 

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You can always go off and start a thread in the Political Philosophy forum if you find this thread too complicated and full of micro-aggressions.
Sorry if I don't share your consternation that Irish journalists aren't writing about boring stories...
 

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You don't really understand the whole HTTP logs/IP addresses thing, do you?
I was speaking to one of ths site's resident alt right scutter swallowers.
When I wish to speak to the site's biggest blowhard and pseud, I will address you directly.
 

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I was speaking to one of ths site's resident alt right scutter swallowers.
When I wish to speak to the site's biggest blowhard and pseud, I will address you directly.
You are just a spoofer of very little intellectual ability and you seem to be quite ignorant on the whole HTTP log/IP address issue. The number of IP addresses in the HTTP logs does not necessarily equate to the same number of individuals. Merely having the IP addresses of the visitors is not, on its own, enough to identify all these people.
 

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I understand these protests are Soros organised and advertised on craigslist in the U.S. If the protesters are being paid as claimed I don't think this is a civil liberties violation at all.
Someone pulls some claim about protesters being paid without a shred of evidence out of their arse, and you think that justifies a search warrant intruding on the right to privacy of over a million Americans? Ffs, use your head. Trump is very unpopular, and even hated by a huge number of Americans at this stage because he is a loudmouth bullying thug and incompetent, who very possibly stole the presidency, and at the very least won it on a significant minority of the vote. You wouldn't need to pay people a cent to protest against such a man. All it takes is an interest in democratic politics and a bit of common sense.:)
 


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