Any Bank Inquiry would inevitably find Cowen culpable!

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I was just reading some of the edbate (classy as it always is on P.ie) when something struck me. It would be virtually impossible for there to be a bank inquiry and for Cowen not to be to blame.

While others would also be cited, the very best thing which could be said about Brian Cowen when he was minister for finance is that he was grossly incompetent. Nobody anywhere could argue that Cowen was a good minister for finance at any level and this includes his handling of the banks. Now while the banks were to blame, while regulation was poor, developer greed rampant and many buyers were ignorant of basic economics, none of those people are the democratically elected leader of the country.

If there is a public inquiry, Cowen's job will be untenable.
 


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The strong legal advice which the Govt has obtained (or is quoting, anyway) seems to bear that out. Protection is the order of the day.
 

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Its all up to the Greens, they will roll over to protect FF once more.
 

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I was just reading some of the edbate (classy as it always is on P.ie) when something struck me. It would be virtually impossible for there to be a bank inquiry and for Cowen not to be to blame.

While others would also be cited, the very best thing which could be said about Brian Cowen when he was minister for finance is that he was grossly incompetent. Nobody anywhere could argue that Cowen was a good minister for finance at any level and this includes his handling of the banks. Now while the banks were to blame, while regulation was poor, developer greed rampant and many buyers were ignorant of basic economics, none of those people are the democratically elected leader of the country.

If there is a public inquiry, Cowen's job will be untenable.

Cowen's job is untenable even before any banking enquiry. Let's just take two recent reports: Colm McCarthy's Bord Snip and the Commission on Taxation.

It's the job of a MoF to be prudent. The profligate waste (much engineered during Cowen's tenure) proves that he's not.

It's the job of the MoF to ensure taxation is adequate to meet the requirements of expenditure and balance the books. The Commission proves that he didn't.

QED.
 

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I was just reading some of the edbate (classy as it always is on P.ie) when something struck me. It would be virtually impossible for there to be a bank inquiry and for Cowen not to be to blame.

While others would also be cited, the very best thing which could be said about Brian Cowen when he was minister for finance is that he was grossly incompetent. Nobody anywhere could argue that Cowen was a good minister for finance at any level and this includes his handling of the banks. Now while the banks were to blame, while regulation was poor, developer greed rampant and many buyers were ignorant of basic economics, none of those people are the democratically elected leader of the country.

If there is a public inquiry, Cowen's job will be untenable.
I don't know why they bother with trials, tribunals and inquiries, why don't they just hang the f.ckers?

It's the FG way, it's the only way!!

A bit of flogging wouldn't go amiss either.
 

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Mick Wallace just interviewed on Newstalk.

He says the government decisions need to be the focus of any inquiry, especially the Bank Guarantee.

Says including Anglo in the guarantee was nuts and if the government knew or did not know how bad Anglo was, it should never have been included.

Also says the big developers will be back doing business in 5 years, with the taxpayer paying for their losses.
 

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Cowen is a useless fat turd hiding out in the midlands. He is a coward. He is weak.

I'd much prefer Lenihan but with his illness who knows.

As much as Enda is rubbish, at least he'd let Richard Bruton deal with the economy.
 

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Ah the good old lets have a fair trial and announce the verdict before it happens style of FG.
The verdict is axiomatic. You can go throuygh the motions, but if someone did something, then an enquiry will not change that.

The only point at stake here is do they find Cowen culpable in private and hush it up, or do they find him culpable in public.
 

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Mick Wallace just interviewed on Newstalk.

He says the government decisions need to be the focus of any inquiry, especially the Bank Guarantee.

Says including Anglo in the guarantee was nuts and if the government knew or did not know how bad Anglo was, it should never have been included.

Also says the big developers will be back doing business in 5 years, with the taxpayer paying for their losses.
Thanks Mick.

If I need a patio laid, I'll give you a shout.
 

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Ah the good old lets have a fair trial and announce the verdict before it happens style of FG.
Hard to complain about,

the fair investigation into Haughey took more than 10 years to out the truth
the fair trial into planning corruption, 10 years on and what - the traitor is still on state payroll
fair trial into the the mobile telecoms license - Lowry still on payroll

Is it any wonder people are more inclinded to take a chance of convicting the innocent and go for immediate hanging?

There will be an investigation, though very limited - so FF can say there was an investigation but limit it to a degree that it's meaningless. Someone will tickle Paul Gogarty's belly, tell him he's a tough a guy and the green's will role over.
 

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I was just reading some of the edbate (classy as it always is on P.ie) when something struck me. It would be virtually impossible for there to be a bank inquiry and for Cowen not to be to blame.

While others would also be cited, the very best thing which could be said about Brian Cowen when he was minister for finance is that he was grossly incompetent. Nobody anywhere could argue that Cowen was a good minister for finance at any level and this includes his handling of the banks. Now while the banks were to blame, while regulation was poor, developer greed rampant and many buyers were ignorant of basic economics, none of those people are the democratically elected leader of the country.

If there is a public inquiry, Cowen's job will be untenable.
If Cowen is blamed, he should end up with a Bernie Madoff sentence in the 'Joy.
 

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Thanks Mick.

If I need a patio laid, I'll give you a shout.
I'm sure if he needs political advice, you will be the man he contacts.
 
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Hard to complain about,

the fair investigation into Haughey took more than 10 years to out the truth
the fair trial into planning corruption, 10 years on and what - the traitor is still on state payroll
fair trial into the the mobile telecoms license - Lowry still on payroll

Is it any wonder people are more inclinded to take a chance of convicting the innocent and go for immediate hanging?

There will be an investigation, though very limited - so FF can say there was an investigation but limit it to a degree that it's meaningless. Someone will tickle Paul Gogarty's belly, tell him he's a tough a guy and the green's will role over.
Who died and appointed you executioner.
 

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I was just reading some of the edbate (classy as it always is on P.ie) when something struck me. It would be virtually impossible for there to be a bank inquiry and for Cowen not to be to blame.

While others would also be cited, the very best thing which could be said about Brian Cowen when he was minister for finance is that he was grossly incompetent. Nobody anywhere could argue that Cowen was a good minister for finance at any level and this includes his handling of the banks. Now while the banks were to blame, while regulation was poor, developer greed rampant and many buyers were ignorant of basic economics, none of those people are the democratically elected leader of the country.

If there is a public inquiry, Cowen's job will be untenable.
Just a quick Q there, Captain Blueshirt:

Which part of Cowen's handling of the economy did FG oppose between 2002 and 2007?

His refusal to cut Stamp Duty rates perhaps, or the amount of money he was spending on social welfare?
 
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Just a quick Q there, Captain Blueshirt:

Which part of Cowen's handling of the economy did FG oppose between 2002 and 2007?

His refusal to cut Stamp Duty rates perhaps, or the amount of money he was spending on social welfare?
FG are after a witchhunt and don't care who their lynching victim is.

As per usual it will back fire and the end up with blowback.
 

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FG are after a witchhunt and don't care who their lynching victim is.

As per usual it will back fire and the end up with blowback.
Cowen has done such a perfect job he should be canonised. And those pesky blueshirts, well, they're just wrong. :lol: FFS!
 

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Just a quick Q there, Captain Blueshirt:

Which part of Cowen's handling of the economy did FG oppose between 2002 and 2007?

His refusal to cut Stamp Duty rates perhaps, or the amount of money he was spending on social welfare?
Seeing that you are asking questions, perhaps you'd care to list the budgets between 2002-2007 that FG voted for?
 

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I think that a lynching of FF/PD and their cronies who were responsible for this mess would provide a much needed boost to the construction sector. The numbers of jobs created could be announced from the gallows as we hang the lot of them. As for fair trials - you can't have a fair trial when the system is corrupt.

Regards...jmcc
 

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Seeing that you are asking questions, perhaps you'd care to list the budgets between 2002-2007 that FG voted for?

or indeed read an of Bruton's budget speeches from 2002-2007
 


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