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Approaches to culturally conservative immigrants

cyberianpan

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Germany suffered an outbreak of mass groping and even more serious sexual assaults by recent immigrants some time back

Part of their response is to launch a sex education website aimed at such immigrants

Sex manual for immigrants sparks backlash in Germany
Heinz-Jürgen Voss, a sex scientist at the University of Merseburg, told the Washington Post it was “racist” to assume that Syrians and Iraqis, for instance, were less schooled than Germans when it came to sex.
To what extent if any should a host country seek to re-educate recent immigrants?

If re-education is to take place, should it be mandatory and/or what form should it take?


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Firstly Germany want to get rid of Heinz-Jürgen Voss and buy a few burdizzos
Germany suffered an outbreak of mass groping and even more serious sexual assaults by recent immigrants some time back

Part of their response is to launch a sex education website aimed at such immigrants

Sex manual for immigrants sparks backlash in Germany


To what extent if any should a host country seek to re-educate recent immigrants?

If re-education is to take place, should it be mandatory and/or what form should it take?


Cyp
 

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the IQ of the Muslim world is ~80 , the IQ of Germans is above 100. The risk is that Germans view Muslims as having the same capacity to learn and adapt as they do
 

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These immigrants come from societies that are culturally backward and undeveloped. Of course they need to be told it's not acceptable to rape and grope. I don't understand why it's racist to point this out.
 

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Respect for women and their autonomy is what needs to be taught. Sex is not the issue here. The issue here is a culture that views unaccompanied women as fair game for mauling.
 

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If you have to educate them not to rape & grope maybe you shouldn't be bringing them in at all. Just a thought.
 

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Respect for women and their autonomy is what needs to be taught. Sex is not the issue here. The issue here is a culture that views unaccompanied women as fair game for mauling.
O'h yeah, a little focus group & chat over tea will solve the problem.

People like Heinz are the modern day equivalent of the pacifist christians who willingly threw themselves to the lions back in the day.

All join hands together now and sing ourselves towards peace, love & understanding. :roll:

Get to fck!

How about being very selective of the "cultures" we allow into our countries in the first place. Now there's a concept.
 

iartaoiseach

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O'h yeah, a little focus group & chat over tea will solve the problem.

People like Heinz are the modern day equivalent of the pacifist christians who willingly threw themselves to the lions back in the day.

All join hands together now and sing ourselves towards peace, love & understanding. :roll:

Get to fck!

How about being very selective of the "cultures" we allow into our countries in the first place. Now there's a concept.
Is that what you think I mean?
 

iartaoiseach

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@ Gaston.
I would advocate a zero tolerance approach regarding some "cultural practices" such as what was witnessed in Germany. Back home with anyone who brings any of that sort of barbarity in their baggage.
If people claim to be fleeing oppression it is unacceptable for them to engage in dictating values to their host culture, especially one as open as Germany and most of Europe. Inflicting your religious and/or other values on those who gave you refuge should not be tolerated. Any attempt to impinge on others such as advocating for the locals to change they way they dress or behave should likewise be dismissed.
My point about the education was that even the idea of giving sex ed to someone who believes it is culturally acceptable to molest women simply because they are alone and nearby is so misguided that it shows how bananas the debate has gone regarding the migrant crisis.
 

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the IQ of the Muslim world is ~80 , the IQ of Germans is above 100.
Do you have a source for that? Seriously, I'm not saying you're wrong but I'd be interested to see where you got it.
 

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These immigrants come from societies that are culturally backward and undeveloped. Of course they need to be told it's not acceptable to rape and grope. I don't understand why it's racist to point this out.
Well, it's obvious. If you dare object to primitive, uneducated, immigrants raping and groping indigenous citizens of your country, you're a racist.

If you deign yourself important enough to say "Hey, cut that sh1t out, it's uncivilised and socially unaccpetable", you're evidently a racist.

If you think that your culture of sexual propriety and self restraint is superior to a culture where rapeing and groping is the norm, you cannot deny your inherent bloody racism.

It's people like you non-rapists and non-gropers who are responsible for the decadence and debauchery in today's society.

You people make me sick.
 

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The best solution woukd be to not let them in. They have nothing to offer.
They gave us rampant raping and groping.

What more do you want?
 
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These immigrants come from societies that are culturally backward and undeveloped. Of course they need to be told it's not acceptable to rape and grope. I don't understand why it's racist to point this out.
No, the state shouldn't have to waste any of it's time or money educating these scum. If they come here naively or otherwise with the notion that women are sexual objects then they get deported. Women will be raped as a direct consequence of allowing Individuals from those regions of the world flock here.
 

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Maybe we should do as those opposed to immigration so often suggest, and deal with our own problems first.

Clearly there are plenty of natives urgently in need of sex education...

http://www.politics.ie/forum/justice/239591-when-rape-actually-rape.html
You're absolutely right.

And let's not compound the problem by letting more people in to our countries who clearly have even more repellent and backward views as how to behave than some of our natives.

Put the whole immigration thingy on hold, send back those that we have very mistakenly let in, 'educate' our offenders and potential 'offenders', which is obviously all hetrosexual males, see how that goes, and then assess and review if it's ok to continue with the immigration.

I'm with you there.
 
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Maybe we should do as those opposed to immigration so often suggest, and deal with our own problems first.

Clearly there are plenty of natives urgently in need of sex education...

http://www.politics.ie/forum/justice/239591-when-rape-actually-rape.html
In Muslim countries the incident you provided a link for wouldn't have been considered rape.

From an Islamic perspective the Unmarried Girl shouldn't have been laying with the man in the first place, in their eyes she would be just as complicit in the act of fornication.

If she was married to the man her predicament wouldn't have fared any better because under Islamic law a husband cannot rape his wife.
 

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