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Are Fine Gael Irrelevent?


hiker

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With the collapse in the Labour/Fine Gael alternative have Fine Gael finally become irrelevant?

They have had 3 years experience from the last 20 years of government.

The Progressive Democrats have more combined ministerial experience than the entire Fine Gael Front Bench combined.

Lesson number one: if you want to be in government and have a real affect on the running of your country then do NOT join Fine Gael.

Lesson number two: if you want to spend your life on the opposition benches shouting across at those who actually have the real power then join Fine Gael.


Irrelevent? Absolutely.
 

geraghd

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hiker said:
With the collapse in the Labour/Fine Gael alternative have Fine Gael finally become irrelevant?

They have had 3 years experience from the last 20 years of government.

The Progressive Democrats have more combined ministerial experience than the entire Fine Gael Front Bench combined.

Lesson number one: if you want to be in government and have a real affect on the running of your country then do NOT join Fine Gael.

Lesson number two: if you want to spend your life on the opposition benches shouting across at those who actually have the real power then join Fine Gael.


Irrelevent? Absolutely.
This coming from a PDer is laughable. :roll:
McDowell has condemned the PDs to complete irrelevance, in this election and in the medium term.
Talks of a Christian Democratic party as the second largest party being irrelevant is wishful thinking at best.
 

Fr. Hank Tree

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Afraid i can't. It's a while since we were 1-2% in the polls and reliant on FF for our survival :)
 

drbob1972

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Fr. Hank Tree said:
Afraid i can't. It's a while since we were 1-2% in the polls and reliant on FF for our survival :)
given the 3% margin of error the PD's could actually be -2% (or +5% i suppose)
 

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We will be setting up emergency PD membership stalls outside of the count centres for FG members who wish to join after the collapse of their party.

Labour members can politely go and f*ck themselves.
 

hiker

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Fr. Hank Tree said:
Afraid i can't. It's a while since we were 1-2% in the polls and reliant on FF for our survival :)

Its been a while since your party was anything other than making up the numbers in Dail Eireann. :lol:
 

meriwether

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Dont bother rising to the bait boys.
A PD'er ranting about other parties revelancy when
(a) his own party are going down the tubes, and
(b) his own candidate, Tom Morrissey a FG reject and constituency hopper, due to his own unelectability, will continue his fine form of coming nowhere near the business end of things next Thursday

is ironic in the extreme.
 

geraghd

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Munion said:
We will be setting up emergency PD membership stalls outside of the count centres for FG members who wish to join after the collapse of their party.

Labour members can politely go and f*ck themselves.
You may as well look for TDs there whilst you're at it, cause you'll certainly need them after this election.
 

rover

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what a ****ing bullshit pathetic thread from a moronic pd prick!

:lol:

hope youve got holidays planned hiker! :lol:
 

hiker

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meriwether said:
Dont bother rising to the bait boys.
A PD'er ranting about other parties revelancy when
(a) his own party are going down the tubes, and
(b) his own candidate, Tom Morrissey a FG reject and constituency hopper, due to his own unelectability, will continue his fine form of coming nowhere near the business end of things next Thursday

is ironic in the extreme.
Ah meri, it will interesting to see where Doctor Who comes in. :lol:

I suspect he'll bring up the rear like the good FGer he is. 8)
 

eurocrat

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Okay guys, if the question was from a Green party supporter rather than PD supporter, what would your answer be?
 

pfkf1

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Munion said:
We will be setting up emergency PD membership stalls outside of the count centres for FG members who wish to join after the collapse of their party.

Labour members can politely go and f*ck themselves.
They will be fairly quite stalls then, I wonder do you have enough supporters to man the stalls at all the count centres all day, me thinks not.

To answer the question about FG being irrelevant, what a non arguement, how could a party at 27% and who has party membership of 40,000 be irrelevent, the only party that is irrelevant in this country are FF, sorry I mean the PD's, easy mistake to make though.
 

Respvblica

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hiker said:
With the collapse in the Labour/Fine Gael alternative have Fine Gael finally become irrelevant?

They have had 3 years experience from the last 20 years of government.

The Progressive Democrats have more combined ministerial experience than the entire Fine Gael Front Bench combined.

Lesson number one: if you want to be in government and have a real affect on the running of your country then do NOT join Fine Gael.
This sounds like a plea. Are people leaving your party in droves and joining Fine Gael, or are you afraid ths might happen after the election. I'm sympathetio to most, but a party which draws on FG votes and then which props up an unaccountable and corrupt government makes no sense. Who would join or remain in such a party that took that behaviour?
 

hiker

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rover said:
what a ****ing bullshit pathetic thread from a moronic pd prick!

:lol:

hope youve got holidays planned hiker! :lol:
Hmmm, good to see the Socialist Party still have a good sense of humour.
We'll miss Comrade Joe in the next Dail. :lol:
 

meriwether

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hiker said:
meriwether said:
Dont bother rising to the bait boys.
A PD'er ranting about other parties revelancy when
(a) his own party are going down the tubes, and
(b) his own candidate, Tom Morrissey a FG reject and constituency hopper, due to his own unelectability, will continue his fine form of coming nowhere near the business end of things next Thursday

is ironic in the extreme.
Ah meri, it will interesting to see where Doctor Who comes in. :lol:

I suspect he bring up the rear like the good FGer he is. 8)
We've still got 50 odd others in contention. Unlike your goodselves.
Morrissey is unelectable. I have no doubt that this will hurt, seeing as you have but so much effort into his campaign, but sometimes, you just have to admit that your candidate hasn't a hope in hell.
Zilch.
Admitting your candidate has a problem with getting votes is the first step to recovery Hiker.
 

hiker

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meriwether said:
hiker said:
meriwether said:
Dont bother rising to the bait boys.
A PD'er ranting about other parties revelancy when
(a) his own party are going down the tubes, and
(b) his own candidate, Tom Morrissey a FG reject and constituency hopper, due to his own unelectability, will continue his fine form of coming nowhere near the business end of things next Thursday

is ironic in the extreme.
Ah meri, it will interesting to see where Doctor Who comes in. :lol:

I suspect he bring up the rear like the good FGer he is. 8)
We've still got 50 odd others in contention. Unlike your goodselves.
Morrissey is unelectable. I have no doubt that this will hurt, seeing as you have but so much effort into his campaign, but sometimes, you just have to admit that your candidate hasn't a hope in hell.
Zilch.
Admitting your candidate has a problem with getting votes is the first step to recovery Hiker.
Meri, youre a member of a party that wont see government for another FIVE years.

Man that must hurt. :(

Dont you ever get dis-illusioned??
Would'nt you prefer to make a difference rather than just organising Annual National Conferences and giving out press releases and pretending that you make a difference when in fact YOU DON'T. :lol:
 

meriwether

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hiker said:
meriwether said:
hiker said:
meriwether said:
Dont bother rising to the bait boys.
A PD'er ranting about other parties revelancy when
(a) his own party are going down the tubes, and
(b) his own candidate, Tom Morrissey a FG reject and constituency hopper, due to his own unelectability, will continue his fine form of coming nowhere near the business end of things next Thursday

is ironic in the extreme.
Ah meri, it will interesting to see where Doctor Who comes in. :lol:

I suspect he bring up the rear like the good FGer he is. 8)
We've still got 50 odd others in contention. Unlike your goodselves.
Morrissey is unelectable. I have no doubt that this will hurt, seeing as you have but so much effort into his campaign, but sometimes, you just have to admit that your candidate hasn't a hope in hell.
Zilch.
Admitting your candidate has a problem with getting votes is the first step to recovery Hiker.
Meri, youre a member of a party that wont see government for another FIVE years.

Man that must hurt. :(

Dont you ever get dis-illusioned??
Would'nt you prefer to make a difference rather than just organising Annual National Conferences and giving out press releases and pretending that you make a difference when in fact YOU DON'T. :lol:
If it was about making a difference, you wouldn't be wasting your time with Tom Morrissey, now would you?
We may not be in Govt, but we will still exist, outside of dinner parties in Ranelagh.
 

Fr. Hank Tree

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hiker said:
Meri, youre a member of a party that wont see government for another FIVE years.

Man that must hurt. :(

Dont you ever get dis-illusioned??
Would'nt you prefer to make a difference rather than just organising Annual National Conferences and giving out press releases and pretending that you make a difference when in fact YOU DON'T. :lol:
We could be in Government if we wanted to be. We could go in with FF and then your party would never see government again(which will happen anyway :) ).

But we won't because we simply don't believe in that. It's not a good thing for the country, or the party.

I don't like to get involved in these petulent americanised slagging matches. I respect members of all parties for getting involved in democracy and all that. But you, sir, and your party are nothing but a collection of sleeveen opportunist political whores who have deluded themselves into thinking that a few income tax cuts created the Celtic Tiger.

You really do epitomise everything that the 98% of the Irish people hate about the PDs and everything that is wrong with ireland today. Ye have brought the whole americanised culture and concept of 'loser' to Irish politics and society in general. It's all win win win at all costs - more money, more individualism, survival of the fittest, screw you're own mother over to get ahead, inequality is good, f*ck poor people, etc.

The PDs have become a cancer in Irish society and i bid them good riddance...
 
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