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Are Irish Politicians more Euro-Nationalist than Irish Nationalist. Its Surrender, Surrender, Surrender!


Bobcolebrooke

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Are Irish Politicians more Euro-Nationalist than Irish Nationalist? It's Surrender, Surrender, Surrender!

Are Irish Politicians more Euro-Nationalist than Irish Nationalist. Irish European Policy is simply Surrender, Surrender, Surrender!

Since Ireland's entry to the EEC in 1973 which was then simply a Free Trade Association there has been a progressive move to an EU superstate.

EU law supersedes Irish Law in all areas to which it applies. The vast majority of politicians have been cheerleaders for the march to an EU superstate.

The free movement of people throughout Europe has been a disaster for the Irish Economy. The Euro has been a disaster for the Irish Economy.

It is a myth that the EU have kept peace since WW2. NATO has been the major factor in keeping peace since WW2. Future peace in Europe cannot be dependent on whether Ireland is part of the EU or not!

We have been told the myth that the EU is necessary for our economic well-being. How is it that two of Europe's wealthiest Countries Norway and Switzerland are not in the EU?

What is it about the EU that seduces our political class in massive numbers?
 
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There is no free movement of goods and people into Ireland from eu countries. You still have to go through passport control no matter from where you travel here and we can't obtain financial services from other eu countries like loans, insurance etc, even importing a car, booze, cigs etc have restrictions.

Free movement my hole.
 

Bobcolebrooke

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There is no free movement of goods and people into Ireland from eu countries. You still have to go through passport control no matter from where you travel here and we can't obtain financial services from other eu countries like loans, insurance etc, even importing a car, booze, cigs etc have restrictions.



Free movement my hole.
How many Europeans have taken Irish Jobs ?
 

A view from England

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It is the Irish people who have voted all of these EU laws into the constitution via referendum. It is not just the politicians who are gimps to the EU.
 

Ulster-Lad

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Free movement of goods? We pay VRT still don't we?
 

viper999

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Our political elite are euro facists, what a stupid little country we were joing the euro when the UK didnt, no debate on the pro or cons of joing Bertie said sur" you wont have to change your money when you go to Spain" great!! nothing about interest rates being wrong, different economic cycles, not be able to control your exchange rate what a bunch of clowns.
There is no solution for Ireland, Greece, Spain, Portugal while in the euro
 

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A lot of Irish lamestream party politicians are based on a blueprint of John Redmond, MP.

They are superficially patriotic. After loads of talk about Ireland, and our feelings, they agree with every imperial scheme.

Classic examples are Creighton, Gimmemore, Bunnyfat, etc...
 

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The Euro monetary crisis is being used to transfer power from individual democratic peoples to a centralised body in Brussels. When, not if, that happens....periphery regions i.e - Ireland, will be forced to hand over everything in exchange for bailouts. Fianna Fail never so much as asked the Irish people for their opinion on their future....an act Fine Gael and Labour are only too willing to continue. Fascists.

The people that rally for further European Union integration are extremely dangerous people and deserve nothing but your scorn and your contempt.
 

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The EU has been exposed for what it is a facist power grabing entity! Its a pity the UK didnt join the euro as they would be in a bailout aswell, would have loved to see Olie Rehn coming in to tell them what to do, and Trichet sneering at them from Frankfurt jes would have been fantastic
 

A view from England

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The EU has been exposed for what it is a facist power grabing entity! Its a pity the UK didnt join the euro as they would be in a bailout aswell, would have loved to see Olie Rehn coming in to tell them what to do, and Trichet sneering at them from Frankfurt jes would have been fantastic
What a shame for you that we didn't join. I'm so sad you can't gloat at us.
Pr1ck.
 

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I dont think there are any nationalist parties in Ireland anymore. They all support different versions of internationalism.

FG are the most dangerous, their leadership has stated we should move beyond nation-states.

Dangerous traitors.
 

viper999

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What a shame for you that we didn't join. I'm so sad you can't gloat at us.
Pr1ck.
i didnt mean to gloat fair play for not joing and trying to restore power from the ba.stards
There is no way ye would put up with the s.hit we have as the UK stands up for there interest not some poxy euro
 

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I dont think there are any nationalist parties in Ireland anymore. They all support different versions of internationalism.

FG are the most dangerous, their leadership has stated we should move beyond nation-states.

Dangerous traitors.
They are right.The whole world is moving beyond nation-states.
 

viper999

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They are right.The whole world is moving beyond nation-states.
Ya and the EU and the euro are a blue print for the world, look at what a disaster it has become, its time to start going back to nation states with their own currencies and laws
We can look forward to 30 mil Bulgarians and Romanians who can come from the start of next year, who can get benefits after 3 months, what a fantastic idea
 

pragmaticapproach

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Are Irish Politicians more Euro-Nationalist than Irish Nationalist. Irish European Policy is simply Surrender, Surrender, Surrender!

Since Ireland's entry to the EEC in 1973 which was then simply a Free Trade Association there has been a progressive move to an EU superstate.

EU law supersedes Irish Law in all areas to which it applies. The vast majority of politicians have been cheerleaders for the march to an EU superstate.

The free movement of people throughout Europe has been a disaster for the Irish Economy. The Euro has been a disaster for the Irish Economy.

It is a myth that the EU have kept peace since WW2. NATO has been the major factor in keeping peace since WW2. Future peace in Europe cannot be dependent on whether Ireland is part of the EU or not!

We have been told the myth that the EU is necessary for our economic well-being. How is it that two of Europe's wealthiest Countries Norway and Switzerland are not in the EU?

What is it about the EU that seduces our political class in massive numbers?
We need an Irish UKIP.

A party thats strongly euroskeptic, fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
 

ManUnited

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Ya and the EU and the euro are a blue print for the world, look at what a disaster it has become, its time to start going back to nation states with their own currencies and laws
We can look forward to 30 mil Bulgarians and Romanians who can come from the start of next year, who can get benefits after 3 months, what a fantastic idea
30 million coming to Ireland..quick, get under the bed.
 

eoghanacht

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It is the Irish people who have voted all of these EU laws into the constitution via referendum. It is not just the politicians who are gimps to the EU.
You mean the referendums that they make us vote upon until we vote the way they want
 
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