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Are Irish speaking Gardai really a priority now?


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Dylan2010

So we have a police force that uses private computers (data protection much) , has no money to put cameras in stations to protect everyone form police/prisoner violence yet no doubt full priority will be given to send cops off to Carraroe and Spideal for a bit of re-education.

For all we know someone insisting on using Irish maybe hoping that the garda doesnt have the patience to find another cop so is hoping to be let off. Surely Irish speakers have an obligation not to act the d1ck and be as helpful as possible whoever they are dealing with.

God forbid that that a mutation creates a gay muslim Irish speaking traveller who is also vegan and lactose intolerant , as Scottie would say "the system can ne take it!"


Irish language awareness programme for gardaí - RTÉ News

An Irish language awareness programme is being developed for gardaí following concerns about the competence of some members of the force to conduct business through Irish.

It follows an investigation by An Coimisinéir Teanga, who is launching his annual report in Galway.

The office monitors how public bodies comply with the provisions of the Official Languages Act.

A total of 756 complaints were made last year - the largest number since the office of An Coimisinéir Teanga was established.

Most were resolved informally, but 13 formal investigations were instigated.

In one instance an Irish speaker who had been stopped for a minor road traffic matter in Dublin was arrested and detained until a garda was found to deal with him through Irish.
 

corelli

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As long as Irish remains as one of two, constitutional, national languages, this is the kind of thing you will get. Little point bitching about the language commissioner etc.

Personally, I would remove it. That would put an end to all the nonsense.
 

Mr. Bumble

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Go deimhin.

Mar sin, it would probably require a constitutional amendment as it is deemed to be the first language in Bunreacht Na h-Eireann and the public have a right to conduct business with the state as Gaeilge
 
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Aindriu

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In a gaeltacht yes. Although in this case
In one instance an Irish speaker who had been stopped for a minor road traffic matter in Dublin was arrested and detained until a garda was found to deal with him through Irish.
yer man was a dick!
 

Aindriu

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is being beaten up in Irish any more pleasant than being beaten up in English? maybe wondering what the dude is saying will take my mind off the pain :D
AH but being beaten up in Irish just sounds so more poetic petunia
 

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Irish language awareness programme for gardaí - RTÉ News

Coimisinéir Seán Ó Cuirreáin said he was struck by the fact that gardaí who had been educated to Leaving Cert level and completed training in Templemore were unable to ask a driver "Cad is ainm duit?" or seek his address through Irish.
On foot of the investigation, gardaí are to receive a laminated card with useful Irish phrases to ensure they can conduct some business through Irish.

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"Speaking Irish isn't a crime. When I investigated this matter I detected an attitude among certain members of the gardaí involved in the case that Irish speakers should be treated as if they were speakers of a foreign language in this country which professes to have two official languages.
 

Aristodemus

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As long as Irish remains as one of two, constitutional, national languages, this is the kind of thing you will get. Little point bitching about the language commissioner etc.

Personally, I would remove it. That would put an end to all the nonsense.
Quite right, however there is not one politician in this country with the guts to do that. When Ahern was lobbying to have Irish recognised as an official European language we all ralled round waving the green flag particularly as the cost of translating legislation into Irish was going to be funded by the EU.
 
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Dylan2010

On foot of the investigation, gardaí are to receive a laminated card with useful Irish phrases to ensure they can conduct some business through Irish.
The Irish education system how are ya
 

Hitch 22

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But what are Shinners going to do with themselves if they can't ring up their local Garda station or call into the station and pester the non-speaking Garda on duty and stick around so a Irish speaking Garda can be found at tax payers expense?
 

statsman

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So we have a police force that uses private computers (data protection much) , has no money to put cameras in stations to protect everyone form police/prisoner violence yet no doubt full priority will be given to send cops off to Carraroe and Spideal for a bit of re-education.

For all we know someone insisting on using Irish maybe hoping that the garda doesnt have the patience to find another cop so is hoping to be let off. Surely Irish speakers have an obligation not to act the d1ck and be as helpful as possible whoever they are dealing with.

God forbid that that a mutation creates a gay muslim Irish speaking traveller who is also vegan and lactose intolerant , as Scottie would say "the system can ne take it!"


Irish language awareness programme for gardaí - RTÉ News
It's a constitutional right to be dealt with in Irish, so the training makes sense. I assume it's also part of basic Garda training.
 

Cato

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The Irish education system how are ya
Yes, it's a little pathetic although I cannot hold my head up on this one. From talking to Gardaí about this in the past the training the receive in Irish is not onerous.
 

EvotingMachine0197

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It's a constitutional right to be dealt with in Irish, so the training makes sense. I assume it's also part of basic Garda training.
It's not as clear as that in the Constitution if it's Article 8 you're referring to.
 

Aindriu

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The whole way that Irish is taught in schools is crap anyway. It needs to be taught as a living language through speech - just as we learn English from birth. Not the cold, grammar laden way it is at present. Learn to speak so you can be understood. The grammar etc. can follow on later.
 

sport02

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We bend over backwards to europe and multiculturalism. Have welcoming ceromonies like there is no tomorrow, half Garda reservists are foreign, a little respect for the Irish language please.
 
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