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Are Love/Hate and RTÉ exploiting the recent killing of Alan Ryan?


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SeamusNapoleon

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Dublin republican, Alan Ryan, was killed in early September of this year. His killing was seemingly carried out by somebody working for drug gangs in the capital; Alan Ryan’s membership of the 32 County Sovereignty Movement and Real IRA would have caused him to clash with drug gangs given these republican groupings opposition to such practises – as with the shooting of dealers in Cork, Dublin and Derry city.

The upcoming season of Love/Hate centres – insofar as the advertisements would have us believe – on a clash between the protagonists and ‘the Ra’. The one-minute youtube clip for this season has several references to republicans, and prominently features footage of a republican funeral or parade.

Love/Hate is a hugely popular television programme, and this season’s production predates the killing of Alan Ryan. However, the felon-setting – indeed the groundwork for Ryan’s death being interpreted as nothing more than another body-count in some drug turf war – long preceded the Love/Hate programme. Hack tabloid scribblers like Paul Williams and the fool at the Sunday World have been laying the explanatory basis for such killings on the part of drug gangs for years now, parroted unquestionably by others in the media despite a shred of hard evidence.

Ryan’s death turned the spotlight back on the work of republicans, particularly in the capital, and their anti-drugs stance. Despite newspapers reporting a funeral attendance of between 500 and one-thousand, not one report I read sought to provide an explanation for why so many locals – yes, people from the north were there also – were in attendance. As hack, Paul Williams, well knows, there is money in throwing the republican movement into ‘discussions’ on the drug problem in the capital – however smear-like it may be.

Has Love/Hate sought to exploit these issues, as hacked out by Paul Williams for years now?

And has the editor responsible for the new season’s advertisement sought to exploit the recent news-worthy killing of a republican in the city at the hands of criminal drug gangs by featuring prominently such public, urban displays of republican support as were seen in north Dublin city not two months ago?

Love/Hate | Coming Soon | RTÉ One - YouTube



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If anybody is going to quote the OP, please cut out the youtube video when you do so...
 


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I know that his grave was pissed on, get over it.
 

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Love/Hate is actually good.

Sadly it reflects and could be accused of glorifying the scumbags in the drugs gangs that operate here.
 

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I'd imagine the script was written long before Alan Ryan's murder. Good series in general though.
 

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Love/Hate back this November - RT Ten

Dublin republican, Alan Ryan, was killed in early September of this year. His killing was seemingly carried out by somebody working for drug gangs in the capital; Alan Ryan’s membership of the 32 County Sovereignty Movement and Real IRA would have caused him to clash with drug gangs given these republican groupings opposition to such practises – as with the shooting of dealers in Cork, Dublin and Derry city.

The upcoming season of Love/Hate centres – insofar as the advertisements would have us believe – on a clash between the protagonists and ‘the Ra’. The one-minute youtube clip for this season has several references to republicans, and prominently features footage of a republican funeral or parade.

Love/Hate is a hugely popular television programme, and this season’s production predates the killing of Alan Ryan. However, the felon-setting – indeed the groundwork for Ryan’s death being interpreted as nothing more than another body-count in some drug turf war – long preceded the Love/Hate programme. Hack tabloid scribblers like Paul Williams and the fool at the Sunday World have been laying the explanatory basis for such killings on the part of drug gangs for years now, parroted unquestionably by others in the media despite a shred of hard evidence.

Ryan’s death turned the spotlight back on the work of republicans, particularly in the capital, and their anti-drugs stance. Despite newspapers reporting a funeral attendance of between 500 and one-thousand, not one report I read sought to provide an explanation for why so many locals – yes, people from the north were there also – were in attendance. As hack, Paul Williams, well knows, there is money in throwing the republican movement into ‘discussions’ on the drug problem in the capital – however smear-like it may be.

Has Love/Hate sought to exploit these issues, as hacked out by Paul Williams for years now?

And has the editor responsible for the new season’s advertisement sought to exploit the recent news-worthy killing of a republican in the city at the hands of criminal drug gangs by featuring prominently such public, urban displays of republican support as were seen in north Dublin city not two months ago?

Love/Hate | Coming Soon | RTÉ One - YouTube



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If anybody is going to quote the OP, please cut out the youtube video when you do so...
The series was written and filmed and edited months ago.
Republican have been hip deep in organized crime for decades.
Saor Eire which seems to been made up of kids from industrial schools were influenced by Che Guevera and Baader Meinhof and other revolutionaries.
Martin Cahill and his crew arguably had a political robin hood style image and had an uneasy relationship with the IRA.
Gilligan and his gang and other drug dealers kicked money upstairs to the provos.
Drugs gangs in Dublin have members whose families have republican backgrounds.
And the dissidents are basically a criminal gang who wrap the green flag around themselves.
 
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Love/Hate is actually good.

Sadly it reflects and could be accused of glorifying the scumbags in the drugs gangs that operate here.
Apparently some criticized it because they reckoned the actors and actresses in it were too decent looking to portray skangers !!!!
 
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I'm sure the 32CSM would be very upset anyone exploiting the drugs issue. Except for themselves of course.
 

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It is an excellent series - life imitating art - art imitating life.
 

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Hack tabloid scribblers like Paul Williams and the fool at the Sunday World have been laying the explanatory basis for such killings on the part of drug gangs for years now, parroted unquestionably by others in the media despite a shred of hard evidence.
Who else would be doing the killings if not drug, or at least criminal, gangs?
 

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Love/Hate back this November - RT Ten

Dublin republican, Alan Ryan, was killed in early September of this year. His killing was seemingly carried out by somebody working for drug gangs in the capital; Alan Ryan’s membership of the 32 County Sovereignty Movement and Real IRA would have caused him to clash with drug gangs given these republican groupings opposition to such practises – as with the shooting of dealers in Cork, Dublin and Derry city.

The upcoming season of Love/Hate centres – insofar as the advertisements would have us believe – on a clash between the protagonists and ‘the Ra’. The one-minute youtube clip for this season has several references to republicans, and prominently features footage of a republican funeral or parade.

Love/Hate is a hugely popular television programme, and this season’s production predates the killing of Alan Ryan. However, the felon-setting – indeed the groundwork for Ryan’s death being interpreted as nothing more than another body-count in some drug turf war – long preceded the Love/Hate programme. Hack tabloid scribblers like Paul Williams and the fool at the Sunday World have been laying the explanatory basis for such killings on the part of drug gangs for years now, parroted unquestionably by others in the media despite a shred of hard evidence.

Ryan’s death turned the spotlight back on the work of republicans, particularly in the capital, and their anti-drugs stance. Despite newspapers reporting a funeral attendance of between 500 and one-thousand, not one report I read sought to provide an explanation for why so many locals – yes, people from the north were there also – were in attendance. As hack, Paul Williams, well knows, there is money in throwing the republican movement into ‘discussions’ on the drug problem in the capital – however smear-like it may be.

Has Love/Hate sought to exploit these issues, as hacked out by Paul Williams for years now?

And has the editor responsible for the new season’s advertisement sought to exploit the recent news-worthy killing of a republican in the city at the hands of criminal drug gangs by featuring prominently such public, urban displays of republican support as were seen in north Dublin city not two months ago?

Love/Hate | Coming Soon | RTÉ One - YouTube



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If anybody is going to quote the OP, please cut out the youtube video when you do so...
Was there not some suggestion,not denied, that this guy Alan was himself responsible for a number of murders?
 

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The RA or at least RA men have featured in TV and movie's for ages. One of my favs is A fist full of Dynamite

A Fistful of Dynamite Trailer - YouTube


Coburns attempt at an Irish accent will keep you smiling all the way through.
 
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*sigh*

For anybody else who wants to point out that the filming of this season predated Ryan's killing, note that it gets a mention in the OP. This does not conflict with the OP.
 

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Apparently some criticized it because they reckoned the actors and actresses in it were too decent looking to portray skangers !!!!
The pretty boy actor Robert Sheehan wouldn't last 5 minutes :lol:
 

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*sigh*

For anybody else who wants to point out that the filming of this season predated Ryan's killing, note that it gets a mention in the OP. This does not conflict with the OP.

Look as long as the IRA exists and long after the last embodiment shuffles off stage they will be featured in works of fiction.

I don't think they deliberately sought to exploit the situation, somewhere in an Irish TV show about the underworld 'RA men' will crop up sooner or latter.
 
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Look as long as the IRA exists and long after the last embodiment shuffles off stage they will be featured in works of fiction.

I don't think they deliberately sought to exploit the situation, somewhere in an Irish TV show about the underworld 'RA men' will crop up sooner or latter.
What about the editing of the advertisement now on the television - the parade of people, balaclaves at the front in the colour party, drums and a flash to the Proclamation?

This was edited after Ryan's killing - an event that dominated the news for days, including the funeral?
A whole season of clips to choose from.
 

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Seamus: The men marching badly wearing berets had to feature sooner or later - it's part of the story of the destruction caused by 'politically inspired' violence, drugs and crime - a lethal cocktail.
 

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What about the editing of the advertisement now on the television - the parade of people, balaclaves at the front in the colour party, drums and a flash to the Proclamation?

This was edited after Ryan's killing - an event that dominated the news for days, including the funeral?
A whole season of clips to choose from.
It's hardly a massive surprise that a series would base itself on real-life events, if only to attract the extra attention. Question is, so what?
 

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What about the editing of the advertisement now on the television - the parade of people, balaclaves at the front in the colour party, drums and a flash to the Proclamation?

This was edited after Ryan's killing - an event that dominated the news for days, including the funeral?
A whole season of clips to choose from.
So you think they should have dropped the story and re shot another whole story weeks prior to it being aired on TV because people (you in this case) might see parallels between the mans death and their story?

Just how do you go about telling the story of a 'war' between the RA and Dublin criminals without showing people in a republican colour party?

To be honest Seamie I don't see what you are getting at.
 

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Who really cares. Extreme republicans have been exploiting violent simpletons for decades now.
 

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