Are many of you interested in joining far-left parties?


DJP

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I wonder how many lives capitalism has destroyed, across the world, down the years? Yet it still thrives because it is built on the idea - so charming to humanity - of making a fortune out of other people's labour.
The socialism of the SP, unlike most or the majority of people who describe themselves as Socialists around the world, is communism. I don't even believe they are serious about what they go on about mind which is to me even more disturbing.
 

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A touch over simplistic. There is a big factor of equality of opportunity. But outside of that, a big part of growing up is accepting that some people are just harder working and / or more intelligent. Luck will always be a factor, but outside of seriously wealthy scions, luck peters out over time.
 

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The socialism of the SP, unlike most or the majority of people who describe themselves as Socialists around the world, is communism. I don't even believe they are serious about what they go on about mind which is to me even more disturbing.
They are charlatans. A lifestyle audit might be a bit Animal Farm...
 

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I've challenged various members of the alphabets in person for years and on here more recently for one example of where their politics has actually been implemented by any government in the world.
Still waiting.
 

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The Workers Party aiming their ads at socialists?

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Do Solidarity and PBP expect to hold their number of council seats in May from the last council elections or do they expect to increase their number of seats or see a reduction?

My area Castleknock has been a 7 seater for the last over 4 years but in May it is being reduced to a 5 seater and I think that the SP/Solidarity councillor for the area is going to lose her seat. The AAA won I think 3 seats in the last LE's in 2014 in Dublin 15 and the SP/Solidarity have 2 now in the area (one of the AAA councillors is now an independent) but they are only standing one candidate in each of the 3 wards in the area- Dublin 15 in general.

How's the national picture for them and PBP going looking at the LE's coming up?
 
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The socialism of the SP, unlike most or the majority of people who describe themselves as Socialists around the world, is communism. I don't even believe they are serious about what they go on about mind which is to me even more disturbing.
Most SP and SWP types are wealthy trust-fund kids. Very few of them have ever experienced poverty or worked long hours minimum wage. No, they don't really believe the shyte they come out with and never expect to actually have to deliver on any of it. The most charitable view of them is that they are having a teenage strop to annoy Daddy that somehow carries on late into middle age.

They also have extremely murky and dubious sources of funding and organisation for all their myriad of cover names and trojans, and their disruptive and dishonest wrecking behaviour always has the net effect of dispersing, dividing or poisoning the public perception of change or protest movements. So the less charitable view is that they are an establishment-directed counter-gang whose actual purpose is to prevent effective protest against the status quo.

Then there's the minor matter of the Socialist Party being actual freakin Unionists whose official policy is to dismantle the Republic and rejoin the UK :rolleyes2:

I wouldn't trust any of them in a screaming fit, and I'm about as left-wing as you can get. But the SP/SWP are just toxic.
 

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The objective of socialists is to extend democracy to a nation's resources and the means of producing wealth so that these will be at the disposal of all the citizens and not held for the enrichment of a small clique while many go without adequate shelter, employment and medical care.

This is why every attempt to introduce any small measure of socialism has been destroyed by those who own and control the Earth.
 

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The objective of socialists is to extend democracy to a nation's resources and the means of producing wealth so that these will be at the disposal of all the citizens and not held for the enrichment of a small clique while many go without adequate shelter, employment and medical care.

This is why every attempt to introduce any small measure of socialism has been destroyed by those who own and control the Earth.
So where socialists gained power, you know Russia ,China,Korea,Vietnam,Cambodia,Cuba,Eastern Europe etc , why did the socialists have to seal the boarders to keep the citizens from fleeing? Were they people just so ungrateful?
 

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why did the socialists have to seal the boarders to keep the citizens from fleeing? Were they people just so ungrateful?
The ones with the loot, and with the skills gained at the expense of the citizens, who were offered and hoped to continue their privileged existence in the capitalist world, did.
 

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It's all just a part of student life. Most grow up and grow out of it.

As for emotional scarring, etc, politics, like anything else, is very much a case of caveat emptor. Political parties are no different from churches in this way. Go in with your eyes open, and leave if you don't feel comfortable.
 

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The objective of socialists is to extend democracy to a nation's resources and the means of producing wealth so that these will be at the disposal of all the citizens and not held for the enrichment of a small clique while many go without adequate shelter, employment and medical care.

This is why every attempt to introduce any small measure of socialism has been destroyed by those who own and control the Earth.
:roflmao:
 

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The ones with the loot, and with the skills gained at the expense of the citizens, who were offered and hoped to continue their privileged existence in the capitalist world, did.
So the ones that left took all the loot out of the countries? Not the Maduro or Chavas families that stayed?
 

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Most SP and SWP types are wealthy trust-fund kids. Very few of them have ever experienced poverty or worked long hours minimum wage. No, they don't really believe the shyte they come out with and never expect to actually have to deliver on any of it. The most charitable view of them is that they are having a teenage strop to annoy Daddy that somehow carries on late into middle age.
I don't know much about PBP. My experience of the SP from knowing them in Dublin West 15 years ago and meeting and seeing others of their members- is that most/if not all of their youth members are middle class but most/if not all of the parties older leaders are working class. So the SP leaders or most of them are certainly not "wealthy trust-fund kids". Indeed most of their leaders are so scarred and sectarian that they hate middle class people as much as they hate the super-rich. They're nuts.
 

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I don't know much about PBP. My experience of the SP from knowing them in Dublin West 15 years ago and meeting and seeing others of their members- is that most/if not all of their youth members are middle class but most/if not all of the parties older leaders are working class. So the SP leaders or most of them are certainly not "wealthy trust-fund kids". Indeed most of their leaders are so scarred and sectarian that they hate middle class people as much as they hate the super-rich. They're nuts.
Keep going Darren - its only a matter of time before you revert to type and start hurling insults about the personal hygiene of SP members like you have in the past.
 
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