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Are the Defence forces a complete joke?


johnny365

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In these harsh economic times many would argue that the Defence Forces are a waste of money. I disagree with that view but stories like this test my viewpoint. A tanker which had been seized by Revenue officials has been stolen from an army barracks in Louth.
The incident happened in the early hours of this morning when someone apparently broke into Aiken Military Barracks in Dundalk.
The tanker, still loaded with several thousand litres of laundered diesel, was being stored there after being seized.
This morning a driver managed to get to the vehicle unnoticed, started it and then drove it out of the barracks, crashing through the locked gates at 2.10am.

How can the Defence Forces be so poor and how can somebody leave a barracks with a tanker "unnoticed"? . Given that its laundered diesel and its close to the border this incident has all the hallmarks of a Dissident republican job. Why should we pay for the Defence Forces when they cant even keep hold of a tanker?

Tanker stolen from army barracks in Co Louth - RTÉ News
 
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ruserious

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It appears to be a complete fúck up but to extend that to the great every day work our Defence Forces do is completely disingenuous.
 

Ulster-Lad

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In these harsh economic times many would argue that the Defence Forces are a waste of money. I disagree with that view but stories like this test my viewpoint. A tanker which had been seized by Revenue officials has been stolen from an army barracks in Louth.
The incident happened in the early hours of this morning when someone apparently broke into Aiken Military Barracks in Dundalk.
The tanker, still loaded with several thousand litres of laundered diesel, was being stored there after being seized.
This morning a driver managed to get to the vehicle unnoticed, started it and then drove it out of the barracks, crashing through the locked gates at 2.10am.

How can the Defence Forces be so poor and how can somebody leave a barracks with a tanker "unnoticed" . Given that its laundered diesel and its close to the border this incident has all the hallmarks of a Dissident republican job. Why should we pay for the Defence Forces when they cant even keep hold of a tanker.

Tanker stolen from army barracks in Co Louth - RTÉ News
There you have the government view. You answered your own question. Well done to you.
 
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Goa Tse

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Yep abolish the whole lot cos of one f**k up, sure why not. Makes perfect sense. At least if the defence forces was abolished there'd be no more fuel trucks stolen outta barracks.
 

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johnny365

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Yep abolish the whole lot cos of one f**k up, sure why not. Makes perfect sense. At least if the defence forces was abolished there'd be no more fuel trucks stolen outta barracks.
What do they contribute? Why should we have peacekeepers in foreign lands when we cant afford services for our own people? What do the army provide that we could not do without?
 

ruserious

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What do they contribute? Why should we have peacekeepers in foreign lands when we cant afford services for our own people? What do the army provide that we could not do without?
You mentioned the DF in the title. What would we do without a navy?
 

Dohville

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What do they contribute? Why should we have peacekeepers in foreign lands when we cant afford services for our own people? What do the army provide that we could not do without?
They provide a very valuable source as a target for p.ie shinnerbot scorn.
 

Ulster-Lad

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What do they contribute? Why should we have peacekeepers in foreign lands when we cant afford services for our own people? What do the army provide that we could not do without?
They protect you from all those bad SF/IRA men that you are hiding from under your bed every night from.
 

Goa Tse

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What do they contribute? Why should we have peacekeepers in foreign lands when we cant afford services for our own people? What do the army provide that we could not do without?
It's like an insurance policy. Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
A quick google tells me the bomb squad gets called out hundreds of times a year, the air ambulance and sea rescue too. As regards peacekeeping well they've been doing that for decades and the UN pays for most of it.
The defence budget is miniscule compared to the likes of that money furnace the HSE.
The DF are held in high regard abroad because of their long and dedicated committment to peacekeeping and peace enforcing.
Who will step up when the firefighters go on strike, or the binmen go on strike?
What is people's obsession with shutting down the DF causing another c.10,500 redundancies anyway?

and finally,

Why do we need an Army ? Two words - ALIEN INVASION.

Laugh and mock now but you won't be smiling when you're getting anally probed by ET
 

firefly123

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Seriously another one of these threads? Mergy mc mergyson!
 

Suttree

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In these harsh economic times many would argue that the Defence Forces are a waste of money. I disagree with that view...
No, you don't.

What do they contribute? Why should we have peacekeepers in foreign lands when we cant afford services for our own people? What do the army provide that we could not do without?
 

Brian1

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What do they contribute? Why should we have peacekeepers in foreign lands when we cant afford services for our own people? What do the army provide that we could not do without?
Well as seen as you asked... In your Op you mentioned dissident republicans - They haven't gone away you know!
The Defence Forces escort huge sums of cash throughout the state on a daily basis. No cash in transit escorted by the DF has ever been attacked - unlike cash in transir escorted by Gardai (with tragic consequences - a Garda was murdered)
The Defence Forces provide security in Portlaoise Prison to a degree that the Garda cannot match.
The Defence Forces provide our only maritime patrols and escorts - a task that is increasing in importance.
The Defence Forces provide our only means of dealing with the ever increasing threat dissident republicans and criminal gangs from using IED's.
The Defence Forces have represented this country abroad better than any ambassador ever has.
Last but not least - In all the uproar about public sector pay, from all the posturing by various public sector unions and representative organisations, there was not a word from the Defence Forces. They are the most loyal disciplined organisation in the country!
 

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Johnny365/spoofer is embarrassed at the continuous highlighting of British Army atrocities abroad and in Northern Ireland. He finally found something to attack the Irish Army for. Johnny/spoofer, letting a tanker be stolen is not, and never will be, equivalent to shooting unarmed civilians in the back.
 

johnny365

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Johnny365/spoofer is embarrassed at the continuous highlighting of British Army atrocities abroad and in Northern Ireland. He finally found something to attack the Irish Army for. Johnny/spoofer, letting a tanker be stolen is not, and never will be, equivalent to shooting unarmed civilians in the back.
Kev trolling again, thats tripe has no relevance on this thread.
 

Suttree

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I do believe they are worthwhile but im starting to see another side of that argument.
That doesn't tally with this statement.

What do they contribute? Why should we have peacekeepers in foreign lands when we cant afford services for our own people? What do the army provide that we could not do without?
It corresponds with you wanting to present yourself as holding a moderate position on the issue, so as to give your attack on the Defence Forces more credibility.

This was an almightly f*** up, but it couldn't be less an accurate reflection of the service we get from the Defence Forces.
 
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