Are the Irish entitled to charter Derry and Belfast?

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Well said TB.

Back to Adam and Eve, My goodness you are deluded and brainwashed , You must be a Jesus freak, Thought the Irish ,as you call yourselves would have erased that Poof and his henchmen {priests } from your vocabulary .
 


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Assimilation is inevitable. We are the O'Borg. Interlopers in Ireland have a choice. They can either be assimilated by the O'Borg or be destroyed psychologically by the Irish Unclear Deterrent. The IUD.

Vikings, Old English, Saxon, Norman, American, African. It matters not. It is only a matter of time before each ends up lying in bed at night trying to figure out the perfect bet on an All Ireland Final.


We have Martin Manserghs and we are not afraid to use them. As the great man himself once said 'Hoo--t'pau-t'pau-ecthalmion- versus Livy and sometimes Plutarch-what-hey-fizz-fizz-hah'.

And no one. Of any cultural background whatsoever. Can argue with that.
 

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When you think of it the Irish Unclear Deterrent (IUD) is the cheapest doomsday armament ever devised. It is dispersed among the population and cannot therefore be attacked via cruise missiles from offshore or via intercontinental ballistic missiles. Even if you vapourised the whole island there are still 70 million in reserve around the world at least who are well capable deploying the IUD from any point of the global compass.

Although we maintain a Mutually Assured Destruction strategy we have been known to test-fire the Irish Unclear Deterrent at unsuspecting populations. So we know it works.

We are the O'Borg. We are armed. And you will be assimilated. The centre does not hold. Because we don't in fact keep the centre at the centre where the enemy would suspect it to be.

Good man Mr Yeats. Keep 'em off balance.
 

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Agree 100%, As a native born Irishman forced to emigrate to escape poverty and a very abusive upbringing from mostly Irish speaking Priests and teachers ,
However those Planters are a different type of foreigner , They refuse to belong to what the majority voted for , A Republic. Sadly they show no sign of ever changing. They are Followers of that Poof Jesus and saturated in hatred.

As for foreigners , The more foreigners we accept in Ireland the better off we shall become , Otherwise we,as is becoming to be known in Europe as being the most racist country in the EU.

I do not consider myself as being a foreigner or have never been treated as a foreigner by living in London .
My DNA proves that i am more Gael than many living in Ireland today.
As an immigrant yourself have you never thought that nationalism is a bad idea , and Republicanism is a much better option?
 

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Even by p.ie standards this thread is full-on windowlicker :roflmao:
FFS Syd the bigotry tis hanging out of ye, yer even picking on the pretend prods...
 

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I love Martin luther like and support the green and white army
Moi's has a white beard, a flying sleigh and only work Xmas Eve...
 

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Here moron - we can all go back to Adam and Eve.

The salient point here is that our Gaelic political and social order, and associated culture, originated/evolved in Ireland during prehistoric times - our Irish language in writing is the oldest vernacular literature in Western Europe.

We Irish are Gaels, and our country is named in our stead. We are a distinct people - and our country is one of the oldest in the world.

The Normans and Vikings assimilated into Irish society - the thieving Planters have not.

Unless and until the Unionists obey the democratic will of the Irish people, and assimilate into Irish society, they are still foreigners in Ireland - still occupying part of our country in another country's name - still holding Ireland back in the same way they always have, since they first stole Irish land from us Irish people.
Um, this is a very tricky one. If by "Gael",you mean Celt, the Celts were not the indigenous or first culture on this island. The builders of Brú na Bóinne were not Celts. It is also unknown if the later Celts had any direct contact with these people, yet alone developed from them.

"Gaelic" identity is a modern construction. There's nothing wrong with identity, and it brings with it a lot of positives, but it is not a prehistoric/historic fact. There is no biological "Gaelic" race. There are no uniquely "Gaelic" genes.

To talk about "Gaels", we honestly can go back, at most, maybe 1500 years, not further.
 

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Um, this is a very tricky one. If by "Gael",you mean Celt, the Celts were not the indigenous or first culture on this island. The builders of Brú na Bóinne were not Celts. It is also unknown if the later Celts had any direct contact with these people, yet alone developed from them.

"Gaelic" identity is a modern construction. There's nothing wrong with identity, and it brings with it a lot of positives, but it is not a prehistoric/historic fact. There is no biological "Gaelic" race. There are no uniquely "Gaelic" genes.

To talk about "Gaels", we honestly can go back, at most, maybe 1500 years, not further.
How long have yez been ball slapping?...
 

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Um, this is a very tricky one. If by "Gael",you mean Celt, the Celts were not the indigenous or first culture on this island. The builders of Brú na Bóinne were not Celts. It is also unknown if the later Celts had any direct contact with these people, yet alone developed from them.

"Gaelic" identity is a modern construction. There's nothing wrong with identity, and it brings with it a lot of positives, but it is not a prehistoric/historic fact. There is no biological "Gaelic" race. There are no uniquely "Gaelic" genes.

To talk about "Gaels", we honestly can go back, at most, maybe 1500 years, not further.
Gaelic language and culture go back further than that.
 

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Even by p.ie standards this thread is full-on windowlicker :roflmao:
Yeah his next thread will be are Palestinians ungrateful given the economic benefits of the house building projects in the occupied lands.
 

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Um, this is a very tricky one. If by "Gael",you mean Celt, the Celts were not the indigenous or first culture on this island. The builders of Brú na Bóinne were not Celts. It is also unknown if the later Celts had any direct contact with these people, yet alone developed from them.

"Gaelic" identity is a modern construction. There's nothing wrong with identity, and it brings with it a lot of positives, but it is not a prehistoric/historic fact. There is no biological "Gaelic" race. There are no uniquely "Gaelic" genes.

To talk about "Gaels", we honestly can go back, at most, maybe 1500 years, not further.
Nothing tricky about it at all.

Our Gaelic political and social order, and associated culture, originated/evolved in Ireland during prehistoric times - our Irish language in writing is the oldest vernacular literature in Western Europe.

We Irish are Gaels, and our country is named in our stead. We are a distinct people - and our country is one of the oldest in the world.

The Normans and Vikings assimilated into Irish society - the thieving Planters have not.

Unless and until the Unionists obey the democratic will of the Irish people, and assimilate into Irish society, they are still foreigners in Ireland - still occupying part of our country in another country's name - still holding Ireland back in the same way they always have, since they first stole Irish land from us Irish people.
 

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Gaelic language and culture go back further than that.
Do they? How so? What are you attributing to "Gaelic culture?"

As for the language itself, the earliest recordings of "Gaelic language" date from very late into the sixth century.

Ogham, as I guess you know, dates from 200 years earlier, but it is debatable as to whether it should be considered language, as deferred from code.

This is most definitely not in the "prehistoric" time period.
 

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How long have yez been ball slapping?...
Mind your own business nomad - we Irish are writing about our country Ireland which has NOTHING to do with you foreigners - other than you Unionists are squatting on Irish land that you stole from us Irish people.
 

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Do they? How so? What are you attributing to "Gaelic culture?"

As for the language itself, the earliest recordings of "Gaelic language" date from very late into the sixth century.

Ogham, as I guess you know, dates from 200 years earlier, but it is debatable as to whether it should be considered language, as deferred from code.

This is most definitely not in the "prehistoric" time period.
No one knows for sure how old Irish is but it is simplistic in the extreme to date some based on recorded history, so Irish as a language was around before the earliest record of ogham and the earliest historical written reference of the word Gael is not the same as the beginning of Gaelic culture.
 

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Do they? How so? What are you attributing to "Gaelic culture?"

As for the language itself, the earliest recordings of "Gaelic language" date from very late into the sixth century.

Ogham, as I guess you know, dates from 200 years earlier, but it is debatable as to whether it should be considered language, as deferred from code.

This is most definitely not in the "prehistoric" time period.
This is rubbish.

Never seen or heard of the Celtic language in writing - Gaelic Irish yes.

Not only did our Gaelic political and social order, and associated culture, evolved/originate in Ireland during prehistoric times in Ireland - but it later spread to Scotland.

Scotland is also named in Irish people's stead.
 

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