Are the posters on this board representative?

fatcat

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Stíofán said:
I think the nature of an online discussion site is that it would be skewed towards those of a younger age group and/or those with sufficient free time to post their views here. So, thus I'd imagine PAYE workers and those in the older age category are grossly under-represented, and these would make up the bulk of the 80% of the population who vote for the two centrist parties, FF and FG.

Of what I can see, FF is by far the most under-represented, the site badly needs some more coherent FF posters. Returning Officer is OK, Defeated Romanticist is a little nuts.

FG is somewhat under-represented, but this is partially made up of some posters being prolific.


Labour posters would make up roughly 10% I'd say, so in line with the country.

There is a disproportionate amount of Greens, perhaps linked to their relative strength among students.

SF is well represented, again some of it's posters are prolific, Factual, Rock of Cashel (whatever happened to him?) etc

'Fringe Republicans' as you call them, and traditional Socialists are grossly over represented, I can't understand why, any opinions on their representation on this site? I suppose online discussion would attract a more 'activist' mindset.

The PDs are... ahem... over represented. ;)

The rest - Libertas and the like are certainly punching above their weight. One would hope they'd fade away post-Lisbon.

Trolls - a dramatic increase in their number. One would imagine it is the same people re-registering over and over again. Some direction and moderation needed here.
Ludites
 


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young_dev said:
Are the posters on this board representative of the general Irish population or a bunch or “wing nuts”, atheists, fringe republicans, Muslim apologists, Euro sceptics and loonies lefties?

Looking at the last general election, 80% plus of the vote went to the main stream centrist parties yet this board it seems that roughly 80% plus of the post are by the political fringe.
:?
I would gravitate towards the centre but there are certainly a significant number of caricatures posting on this site.
 

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fatcat said:
Stíofán said:
I think the nature of an online discussion site is that it would be skewed towards those of a younger age group and/or those with sufficient free time to post their views here. So, thus I'd imagine PAYE workers and those in the older age category are grossly under-represented, and these would make up the bulk of the 80% of the population who vote for the two centrist parties, FF and FG.

Of what I can see, FF is by far the most under-represented, the site badly needs some more coherent FF posters. Returning Officer is OK, Defeated Romanticist is a little nuts.

FG is somewhat under-represented, but this is partially made up of some posters being prolific.


Labour posters would make up roughly 10% I'd say, so in line with the country.

There is a disproportionate amount of Greens, perhaps linked to their relative strength among students.

SF is well represented, again some of it's posters are prolific, Factual, Rock of Cashel (whatever happened to him?) etc

'Fringe Republicans' as you call them, and traditional Socialists are grossly over represented, I can't understand why, any opinions on their representation on this site? I suppose online discussion would attract a more 'activist' mindset.

The PDs are... ahem... over represented. ;)

The rest - Libertas and the like are certainly punching above their weight. One would hope they'd fade away post-Lisbon.

Trolls - a dramatic increase in their number. One would imagine it is the same people re-registering over and over again. Some direction and moderation needed here.
Ludites

:lol:
 
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Someone willing to post on a Politics Forum would be far more intensely interested in
the subject than the average John or Mary.

Geraghd's comment reminds me of the anecdote about the Argentinian liberal who lamented that
the political scene in his country was (at the time) dominated by Conservatives and Radicals.
"But one day,we will have an Argentine Liberal Party. And our slogan will be:
Moderation or Death!" :) .
 

liamfoley

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Hello! This board is open to open to all, if the moderates do not post it is because they do not visit, as far as I understand there is no reason why they cant.
 

corelli

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Well for some I imagine it is one of the few outlets they have for their views. The alternative is to vent them publicly and risk being sued, getting a belt in the gob or being otherwise socially ostracised. I do think though that the majority of posters are quite sane, even if I might not agree with them. It is probably representative, in all circumstances.
 

The Lighthouse Keeper

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Ataxia said:
The posters on this board are interested in politics. Therefore, they are not representative.
Agree with the above - there is no other forum that brings such an interesting and disparate number of posters together
in such an entertaining manner. Some newbies should be cut a bit of slack to encourage more posters (aside from the obviously thick of course).
Wouldn't touch Indymedia or boards.ie with a barge pole.
 

The OD

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Actually, I represent the lollipop guild. I'm distraught that my munchkins are being so difficult in their pay demands, I offered them an additional stick of candy and packet of bullseyes a week but they wouldnt have it.

Bloody mini-commies.....

;)
 

Kellard

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The Lighthouse Keeper said:
...Wouldn't touch Indymedia or boards.ie with a barge pole.
Indymedia I can understand but boards.ie? Granted I don't frequent it that often but from what I've seen After Hours is about the only hotbed of knee-jerk reactionism. Am I missing something?

As for this site? No political forum is representative of a population. Fora, by their nature, attract the loudest and most ignorant with the intelligent or at least reasonable often left struggling to get a word in edgewise.
Political fora are worse by magnitudes. It's like puttiing a hundred screaming fanatics in a room and asking them to agree on something they all disagree on.
 

cropbeye

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You could make a similar observation about anywhere on the internet

If American internet was to be taken as a sample

Ron Paul would be well on his way to becoming President of the United States.
 

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If this board is representative of the people of Ireland it really is time to pick a big fight with a nuclear power.
 

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young_dev said:
Are the posters on this board representative of the general Irish population or a bunch or “wing nuts”, atheists, fringe republicans, Muslim apologists, Euro sceptics and loonies lefties?

Looking at the last general election, 80% plus of the vote went to the main stream centrist parties yet this board it seems that roughly 80% plus of the post are by the political fringe.
:?
I'm probably the worst of them all.

I'm a non-catholic republican supporter(but I have-not done anything illegal) that's an American.
 

constitutionus

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of course were not ! were on line and half the country doesnt even have dial up yet, let alone broadband. :)

that said i DO think were alot more representative than any other media outlets. thats why we were so close to calling the actual result of the lisbon treaty referendum for months before a loss was even entertained in the print media. personally i think its down to the anonymity factor. you can say what you want without being judged, or at least its just your avatar being judged as if you actually ran into other posters in real life odds are you dont know them, its got to the stage now that if a journo sticks a microphone in joe publics face on a contentious issue he'll lie his arse off to them. that freedom give us a little more cred

also as someone else mentioned yes were more interested in politics, but that also means we're much more likely to actually VOTE on the day and there is alot of guys here who arent party members and never will be so that adds a certain flavour to the discussions.

i agree we need more FFers though, if memory serves it was pretty much mary frances only articulating the possibility of FF getting 40% in the last election - which in fairness was better than the nobody in the times and the indo who were all expecting FG to get in- and she proved to be spot on. its not good for the site to be without that kind of input.
 

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young_dev said:
Are the posters on this board representative of the general Irish population or a bunch or “wing nuts”, atheists, fringe republicans, Muslim apologists, Euro sceptics and loonies lefties?

Looking at the last general election, 80% plus of the vote went to the main stream centrist parties yet this board it seems that roughly 80% plus of the post are by the political fringe.
:?
It's a misconception that people are 'mainstream' or conformist. The system is shaped to give the overall impression that they are. As i understand it what you mean by 'mainstream' is ticking off almost all boxes of agreement with the average Fianna Fail or FG political manifesto and being completely satisfied that they represent 90+% of what you believe in and then going on happily to cast your vote, it doesn't work this way.

People do not decide the policies of their politicians - the politicians decide and then set out their stalls - many who vote for mainstream parties might have a wide range of so-called 'extreme' opinions but they vote for those parties because they share some common ground with them or are afraid of the reality of an 'extreme' party getting into power (the media play a major role in shaping the Irish electorate's range of opinion on 'extreme' parties - especially Sinn Fein who are party-non-grata in the media). There is no Mr Centre really, everybody who is capable of thinking for themselves will have a wildly dispersed range of opinions on a wide range of issues, someone who is against gay marriage can be socially progressive in other areas. I like to think of political parties using the analogy of mixing paints, you mix every colour and you end up with some kind of browny colour (the 'mainstream), so it is here - people's extreme edges cancel each other out when mixed in large numbers. It is folly to be conflating the opinions of an entire people exactly with their elites and the opinions of their elites - even if most people vote for certain 'mainstream' parties. An example is this, the UK went to war and most Brits hated it, they still returned Labour to power. The flaw isn't with the people on this board, it is with your mode of thinking and your tendency to think people can be placed into little boxes to match the political parties out there, so that everyone is going around wearing an 'im a FF'er' or 'i'm a Labourite' t-shirt under their clothes and their opinions are happily in tune with the manifesto's of those parties, when voting people follow a 'best fit' strategy.
 


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