Assembly election: Sinn Féin rejects call to scrap petition of concern

ScoobyDoo

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Assembly election: Sinn Féin rejects call to scrap petition of concern - BBC News

This is the same Sinn Fein proudly proclaiming they are the champion of equality eg. by promoting gay marriage equality again today.

Yet also today SF announce they will refuse the DUP's proposal to scrap the "petition of concern".

If Sinn Fein had agreed to this then gay marriage act would almost certainly be passed, but instead they refuse to scrap the petition because seemingly they would rather whinge at the DUP for blocking gay marriage rather than actually go about delivering it. :roll:
 


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SF doesn't want democracy. They want their terms and then slate those who use their terms. They're unfit for govt in Northern Ireland. End this shît now.
 

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SF doesn't want democracy. They want their terms and then slate those who use their terms. They're unfit for govt in Northern Ireland. End this shît now.
yes .direct rule then we can get the place pulled into 2017..g/m.abortion/paying for sex ect like normal countries
 

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Assembly election: Sinn Féin rejects call to scrap petition of concern - BBC News

This is the same Sinn Fein proudly proclaiming they are the champion of equality eg. by promoting gay marriage equality again today.

Yet also today SF announce they will refuse the DUP's proposal to scrap the "petition of concern".

If Sinn Fein had agreed to this then gay marriage act would almost certainly be passed, but instead they refuse to scrap the petition because seemingly they would rather whinge at the DUP for blocking gay marriage rather than actually go about delivering it. :roll:
Logically, why would they want it scraped? The point of the petition of concern is to prevent one side lording it over the other. I think it should remain, but should require the support of more than one party, in the event that any single party holds more than thirty seats.
 

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Historically the whole point of power-sharing was to one day reach a point where divisions become a thing of the past and majority rule is accepted by all. Eg Holland 1917-67.

So it should be scraped in theory some time in the future.

But in reality can anybody ever see NI ever being anything but a divided society?
 

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SF doesn't want democracy. They want their terms and then slate those who use their terms. They're unfit for govt in Northern Ireland. End this shît now.
*Cough cough*

 

cut the begs

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Historically the whole point of power-sharing was to one day reach a point where divisions become a thing of the past and majority rule is accepted by all. Eg Holland 1917-67.

So it should be scraped in theory some time in the future.

But in reality can anybody ever see NI ever being anything but a divided society?
no.it cant be changed..unless the solution
 

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Assembly election: Sinn Féin rejects call to scrap petition of concern - BBC News

This is the same Sinn Fein proudly proclaiming they are the champion of equality eg. by promoting gay marriage equality again today.

Yet also today SF announce they will refuse the DUP's proposal to scrap the "petition of concern".

If Sinn Fein had agreed to this then gay marriage act would almost certainly be passed, but instead they refuse to scrap the petition because seemingly they would rather whinge at the DUP for blocking gay marriage rather than actually go about delivering it. :roll:
The petition of concern mechanism is essential to the survival of the Assembly, and anyone who doesn't understand why does not understand the level of mistrust in NI. So there is absolutely no chance of it being scrapped. This is another red herring. The POC mechanism does need to be reformed and should be open to judicial scrutiny to prevent it being misused for specious reasons such as gay marriage. As there are bound to be proportionately as many PUL gays as CNR's there is no justification for its use for such an issue.

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"SF doesn't want democracy."

Just like the Prods. In 1912 the Prods refused to accept majority rule in Ireland. Within Northern Ireland they gerrymandered Derry, Omagh, Fermanagh and South Derry.

"They're unfit for govt in Northern Ireland."

Likewise the Prods.
 

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In SF eyes the Petition of Concern was brought in to protect the rights of minorities, i.e. themselves.
 

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SF doesn't want democracy. They want their terms and then slate those who use their terms. They're unfit for govt in Northern Ireland. End this shît now.
The petition of concern was brought in simply because unionists had shown for decades they were incapable of sharing anything. the DUP want it removed (except when they exercise it, of course) so that they can return to the 'good old' gerrymandering 'protestant state for a protestant people'.

The circumstances for its (petition of concern) removal are simply not there at the moment - as shown by the DUP by their repeated use of its provisions.

The petition of concern process will be removed in the future but only when both sides learn to respect the other tradition, posts like the gibberish quoted above show how very far away we still are from that day.
 

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"SF doesn't want democracy."

Why should it? In Northern Ireland, democracy would mean Prods ruling Catholics. We cannot allow that. Prods refused to accept majority rule when that did not suit them. Why let them have majority rule on the rare occasion when it does suit them?

"They're unfit for govt in Northern Ireland."

Please leave it to Catholics to decide who represents us in government. We can decide.
 


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