At what point will FF lose confidence in Regina Doherty? (Will it be abuse of office or money).

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Fianna Fáil have pledged to support confidence motions. It is hard to see how they could do so in the former chief whip and now Minister for detecting fraud/non-entitled payments.

The issue of her making a complaint to gardai about a legal blog is dealt with in another thread. Would wasting garda time be sufficient? (She could go to solicitor and pay for advice about Defamation
Injunction).

Next up, is the fact she appears to have been getting an allowance as FG chief whip. Nothing has been said on the topic since the 21st June. Is she now on charge of Leo's fraud and overpayment unit? Is FF ok with her maternity payment?

Government also Chief Whip Regina Doherty paid her mother

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/allowance-paid-to-chief-whip-was-illegal-labour-leader-claims-1.3126893?mode=amp

There does not seem to resolution to her company law issues.
The Sins of Fine Gael - Tax Default, Corruption and Inappropriate Behaviour - Page 2

FF could hardly object to TDs giving evidence in mitigation
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chief-whip-doherty-gave-character-evidence-for-tax-fraud-accountant-zdj7f2z9t

There's also the fallout from her failed business. It of itself should not preclude anyone from office, but is FF satisfied with her role and disclosures?


1) would FF act?
2) what would it take?
3) would they need to know she's a goner before acting?
4) will leo resist or throw her out for loss of confidence?
 


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I've learned from other threads wondering when FF will finally "do the right thing" that people believe it will be when they believe they'll win the subsequent election, so sadly they need to wait for FG Og to run the country into the ground first.
 

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I've learned from other threads wondering when FF will finally "do the right thing" that people believe it will be when they believe they'll win the subsequent election, so sadly they need to wait for FG Og to run the country into the ground first.
That's correct.

But Regina Doherty should go -- independently of what Fianna Fáil do.
It was surprising she was ever selected for this job in the first place.
 

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That's correct.

But Regina Doherty should go -- independently of what Fianna Fáil do.
It was surprising she was ever selected for this job in the first place.
So should:

Noreen O'Sullivan
Maire Whelan
Shane Ross
Frances Fitzgerald
Michael Noonan
plus a bunch more.

...but what "should" happen rarely does on this fair isle.
 

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I've learned from other threads wondering when FF will finally "do the right thing" that people believe it will be when they believe they'll win the subsequent election, so sadly they need to wait for FG Og to run the country into the ground first.
When's there's a happy coincidences of morality and electoral advantage for FF. - is probably a good an answer as this thread will get (though I'm looking forward to the FG shills coming out of hiding to a) defend b) deflect or c) delude on the thread)
 

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In fairness you could argue what confidence do the electorate have in most Irish politicians.
 

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FF will do nothing.
 

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As far as I know they never had any to lose.
When FF abstained in the vote for government after Taoiseach came back from the Aras, FF the Republican Party was expressing confidence in her.
 

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and what's the alternative, Jerry never in the IRA Adams , or Mehole , the money was resting in my wife's account , some choice
 

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I've learned from other threads wondering when FF will finally "do the right thing" that people believe it will be when they believe they'll win the subsequent election, so sadly they need to wait for FG Og to run the country into the ground first.
Cormac O'Hara was very pointed on this this morning at the today show on Radio 1. Timmy Dooley was on spouting away about bin charges, and O'Hara put it to him "Are Fianna Fail just going to talk big about this and then climb down and chicken out of doing anything about it, just like ye've done numerous times since the formation of this government?" Dooley was not happy.
 

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Cormac O'Hara was very pointed on this this morning at the today show on Radio 1. Timmy Dooley was on spouting away about bin charges, and O'Hara put it to him "Are Fianna Fail just going to talk big about this and then climb down and chicken out of doing anything about it, just like ye've done numerous times since the formation of this government?" Dooley was not happy.
Cormac OhEadhra puts it far too gently.
 

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When FF abstained in the vote for government after Taoiseach came back from the Aras, FF the Republican Party was expressing confidence in her.
They have more seats, they got slightly more votes, in the circumstances it's the democratic thing to do, that and making sure they have enough rope.
 

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Cormac O'Hara was very pointed on this this morning at the today show on Radio 1. Timmy Dooley was on spouting away about bin charges, and O'Hara put it to him "Are Fianna Fail just going to talk big about this and then climb down and chicken out of doing anything about it, just like ye've done numerous times since the formation of this government?" Dooley was not happy.
Cormac OhEadhra puts it far too gently.
It's politics people, even if you don't have the brains for it, you could at least have a go at pretense.

What have you got to lose?
 

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It's politics people, even if you don't have the brains for it, you could at least have a go at pretense.

What have you got to lose?
You say politics: Normal people say self interested gombeenism. I don't think FF even understands that there's a difference anymore.
 

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That's correct.

But Regina Doherty should go -- independently of what Fianna Fáil do.
It was surprising she was ever selected for this job in the first place.
It isn't. She comes across as smart and very articulate.
 

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They have more seats, they got slightly more votes, in the circumstances it's the democratic thing to do, that and making sure they have enough rope.
Fair enough, we need a govt and there are only 2 parties interested in providing one, if FG screw up, people will turn to FF and the rest will howl at the moon.:lol:
 


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