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Australia could teach us a thing or two


MVOR

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While the Irish governement are doing all in their power to drive tourists away from Ireland, the Australian Governement are looking into providing free flights to boost their economy.

Airlines may offer free flights to Australia - Immigration News - Global Visas

Virgin Blue keen to offer free flights

For the past number of years Ryanair have been giving away free flights, something that has clearly boosted tourism in Ireland and provided much needed revenue for the country. Then last December, the idiot that is Minister for Finance, Brian "Gombeen" Lenihan decided we need to reduce tourism, who'd want more tourists coming to Ireland and spending thousands of Euro's in our hotels, shops and pubs in the middle of a recession? So he started hitting everybody with a €10 tax for going through an Irish Airport. Result being that Ryanair have had to ditch their free flight give aways and now we all suffer as a result. Not only that but they have plans to make hundreds redundant in Ireland because passenger numbers are down. Thank you to all you FF idiots for once again making a bad situation much worse.
 


diablo

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While the Irish governement are doing all in their power to drive tourists away from Ireland, the Australian Governement are looking into providing free flights to boost their economy.

Airlines may offer free flights to Australia - Immigration News - Global Visas

Virgin Blue keen to offer free flights

For the past number of years Ryanair have been giving away free flights, something that has clearly boosted tourism in Ireland and provided much needed revenue for the country. Then last December, the idiot that is Minister for Finance, Brian "Gombeen" Lenihan decided we need to reduce tourism, who'd want more tourists coming to Ireland and spending thousands of Euro's in our hotels, shops and pubs in the middle of a recession? So he started hitting everybody with a €10 tax for going through an Irish Airport. Result being that Ryanair have had to ditch their free flight give aways and now we all suffer as a result. Not only that but they have plans to make hundreds redundant in Ireland because passenger numbers are down. Thank you to all you FF idiots for once again making a bad situation much worse.
Ryanair employees aren't allowed on forums and blogs. Get back to work.

Fair point that the air tax is a counter-productive idea.

It sounds like there is finally some realisation in Finance that these little, seemingly harmless taxes and levies do actually have consequences. I'll know we're screwed if the text message levy or similar comes in on the 7th.
 

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I do love Ryanair and fly with them regualrly but I don't work for them. Though if Micko wants a successor, I'd be honoured to follow in his footsteps.
 

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their are environmental reasons why the tax happened, rather than economic ones.
But tourism is certainly a wealth creator in Ireland, and with the wealth we could do a lot for the environment, such as create tens of thousands of green jobs.
 

MVOR

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their are environmental reasons why the tax happened, rather than economic ones.
But tourism is certainly a wealth creator in Ireland, and with the wealth we could do a lot for the environment, such as create tens of thousands of green jobs.
I agree completely that the environment is important, however I have to point out that this Government has a terrible track record when it comes to the environment and they only used it as an excuse to tax tourists. The pollution caused by planes is a very small percentage when put in context. The government have a private jet, how is this good for the environment. Then add the helicopters, large chauffeur driven cars etc. So if they want to save the planet, every TD should be getting public transport first. But of course there is no public transport in Ireland, or there is but its a shambles and a rip off. Far more revenure could have been saved by cutting the government and civil servant salaries to normal rates and cutting out their expenses and replacing them with free bus/train/luas passes and flights on commercial airlines than will be generated through this tax.
 

Gruffalo

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This tax might make sense if we were not an island, and people had more alternatives to get here. But that is not the case, so this tax should go.
 

marmurr1916

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Australians use too much water to sustain a western life-style for much longer. Tourists from Ireland who are concerned about the envirnoment shouldn't go anywhere near Australia.
 

shutuplaura

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You are talking out your ar se. Tourists are not making the drought in parts of australia any worse really. Its australians who are still using their sprinkler systems, taking baths or hosing down the decking that cause all of the problems. I can still legally use my hose two mornings a week and Melbourne is one of the worst affected areas of the country. Some backpacker running the tap while they wash their teeth use less water that that.

In fact tourist revenues will help australia pay for a new water infrastructure, and Queensland, arguably the most heavily visisted state for tourists doesn't suffer from drought at all.
 

marmurr1916

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You are talking out your ar se. Tourists are not making the drought in parts of australia any worse really. Its australians who are still using their sprinkler systems, taking baths or hosing down the decking that cause all of the problems. I can still legally use my hose two mornings a week and Melbourne is one of the worst affected areas of the country. Some backpacker running the tap while they wash their teeth use less water that that.

In fact tourist revenues will help australia pay for a new water infrastructure, and Queensland, arguably the most heavily visisted state for tourists doesn't suffer from drought at all.
Tourists who fly from Europe to Australia damage the environment.

Extra pressure from tourists on water supplies don't exactly help an already dire situation:

Murray inflows lowest ever
Posted Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:24pm AEDT
Updated Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:01pm AEDT
The Murray-Darling Basin Authority says February inflows were the lowest in recorded history. (ABC News)


River Murray inflows have hit a new low, with the latest drought report from the Murray-Darling Basin Authority showing February inflows were the lowest in recorded history.

February inflows were just 40 gigalitres, less than a quarter of the long-term average.

South Australia's independent water commissioner, Robyn McLeod, says the inflows reinforce the ever-worsening situation for the River Murray.
"We are in fact now lower than we were in 2006, which is seen historically as the worst year the system has ever faced," she said.
 

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Before this heads off into a discussion about the Australian eco-system, I'd like to point out that no other airline flying in or out of Ireland has demanded the revocation of the travel tax. Its just an O'Leary smokescreen.

As to the 'Free Flights' point. Yes, Ryanair has stopped giving away seats.
However, Aer Lingus continues to do so.
Check the Aer Lingus website for flights to Nice in April and May for clear examples.

Further evidence that Ryanair is just sh1t stirring to cover its own bad performance.
 

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shutuplaura

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Tourists who fly from Europe to Australia damage the environment.

Extra pressure from tourists on water supplies don't exactly help an already dire situation:
Laug haul flying damages the environment no doubt. I wasn't arguing that. Tourists use far less water than the average australians and tourist revenue will help pay for recovery efforts such as the de-salination plant in Victoria. We are on stage 3a water restrictions which means I can still legally go out and water the garden with a hose a few mornings a week. People still do this. This uses far more water than most tourists.

And as I said, tourists go mostly to Sydney and Queensland, neither of which are suffering drought. Queensland was recently flooded by tropical storms. Do you have any idea of how far these areas are from drought areas such as South Australia???

Environmental damage in flying is one thing. Tourist water use is a mere drop int he ocean here and not a significant factor in water consumption.
 

Christel

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While the Irish governement are doing all in their power to drive tourists away from Ireland, the Australian Governement are looking into providing free flights to boost their economy.

Airlines may offer free flights to Australia - Immigration News - Global Visas

Virgin Blue keen to offer free flights

For the past number of years Ryanair have been giving away free flights, something that has clearly boosted tourism in Ireland and provided much needed revenue for the country. Then last December, the idiot that is Minister for Finance, Brian "Gombeen" Lenihan decided we need to reduce tourism, who'd want more tourists coming to Ireland and spending thousands of Euro's in our hotels, shops and pubs in the middle of a recession? So he started hitting everybody with a €10 tax for going through an Irish Airport. Result being that Ryanair have had to ditch their free flight give aways and now we all suffer as a result. Not only that but they have plans to make hundreds redundant in Ireland because passenger numbers are down. Thank you to all you FF idiots for once again making a bad situation much worse.
I'm not sure whether tourists to Ireland drop out just because of this. There was a big change in this country, something together with high prices keeps many away who valued Ireland for originally.

Anyway, public transport, and especially regional public transport, coordinated with transfer routes, is missing in this country. That lack prevents people of whole counties from easily connecting, (I wouldn't call commuting" connecting) thereby hindering the development of a lively region, but it also prevents tourists to have access, and reasonably priced access, to the countryside.

I actually had thought recently if Ryan Air might not be the only people here who could manage to bring something like decent and decently priced regional transport about. In my country 14 busses and drivers could achieve a lot, I've looked at possible routes...
Does not BusEireann want to shed 100 busses?
 

caledhel

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Australia as a country is a phenomenal success. Looks like a usurper culture has taken hold in parliament there. Such developments mark a decline in quality - it's how mediocrities get ahead.
 

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