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Austrian presidential election results are CANCELLED.

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I'm aware that this is being discussed in another thread and I'll take the hit/sanctions if this is deemed unnecessary but I think a new thread is required.

The Austrian Constitutional Court has just annulled the results of last month's presidential election. Readers may recall how Norbert Hofer of the far-right and eurosceptic Freedom Party (FPÖ or Freiheitliche Partei Österreichs in German) lost the May 22nd vote to ex-Green Party leader party Alexander Van der Bellen by an extremely narrow margin, with postal ballots having been crucial in tipping the result in Mr Van der Bellen's favour. The opening of postal ballots is one area where there were deemed to be irregularities.

So, the run-off (i.e. the second round between Van Der Bellen and Hofer) will have to be re-run. And the European world is a very different place now compared to May 22nd what with the UK having voted to leave the EU. Eurosceptic forces will feel they are in the ascendancy and the FPÖ is leading in the polls.

Interesting times.....

Austrian court annuls presidential election result - RTÉ News
 
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Democracy prevails. Hofer won.
 

Mentalist Clientelist

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I'm not so sure the Brexit result gives momentum to the FPO.

The lack of planning following the Brexit referendum from the Leave campaign has been a mess. The hard(ish) line taken by the EU to date with the Brits will give food for thought to anyone else thinking that leaving the EU was a simple exercise.

The Leave vote could have the opposite effect.
 

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We can't say that. All that can be said is that Van Der Bellen's win is questionable.
Fair enough. Will they invite neutral observers in this new count I wonder..
 

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The court found no proof that the result had been manipulated but the possibility that the outcome might have been affected is enough for a challenge to succeed.
Couldn't see that happening here. Sounds vaguely Proteastant to me.:shock2:
 

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I'm not so sure the Brexit result gives momentum to the FPO.

The lack of planning following the Brexit referendum from the Leave campaign has been a mess. The hard(ish) line taken by the EU to date with the Brits will give food for thought to anyone else thinking that leaving the EU was a simple exercise.

The Leave vote could have the opposite effect.
It is not a question of hard lines at all.

The sad truth is that the consequences of leaving the EU were downgraded and concealed from the British electorate many of whom voted on a faulty and mistaken basis.

Great that Austria is at least trying to get it right.
Maybe the Brits also need to have another test to see if Brexit is what the majority actually want.
 

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I think to be the first country to vote exit is tougher than to be the second, the third...

Granted the Austrians are not re-voting to exit the EU, they are re-voting to elect a president, but one of the major candidates is strongly pro-exit.

So will Brexit have a knock on effect in the forth-coming Austrian election? Hard to say, it might have a moderate/significant effect. Remember, candidates can take advantage of it in different ways. We'll have to wait and see how the new election campaigns play out.
 
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I'm not so sure the Brexit result gives momentum to the FPO.

The lack of planning following the Brexit referendum from the Leave campaign has been a mess. The hard(ish) line taken by the EU to date with the Brits will give food for thought to anyone else thinking that leaving the EU was a simple exercise.

The Leave vote could have the opposite effect.
It could go either way. I'm still trying to find out what the Court actually decided was valid. The FPO presented a lot of evidence and some of it suggested that the irregularities were a lot more serious than technical or procedural.
 

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It is not a question of hard lines at all.

The sad truth is that the consequences of leaving the EU were downgraded and concealed from the British electorate many of whom voted on a faulty and mistaken basis.

Great that Austria is at least trying to get it right.
Maybe the Brits also need to have another test to see if Brexit is what the majority actually want.
The Austrians are to have a re-vote on the basis that there were significant voting irregularities. So there's no comparison with the British vote.

The 'remainers' are of course free to go to the courts, if they feel they have a case. Let the courts decide.;)
 

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The Austrians are to have a re-vote on the basis that there were significant voting irregularities. So there's no comparison with the British vote.

The 'remainers' are of course free to go to the courts, if they feel they have a case. Let the courts decide.;)
There is no doubt but that like in most EU countries many of the the electorate of Austria were also deceived by the constant lies and exaggerations peddled in its mass media by the socialist left.
 
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Couldn't see that happening here. Sounds vaguely Proteastant to me.:shock2:
The Austrians are uber-Catholic!

Anyway, I know it's the Daily Mail but this sounds dodgy.

The court ruled broadly with Freedom Party claims that absentee ballots were sorted before electoral commission officials arrived; some officials stayed away during absentee vote counts but signed documents saying they were present; some ballot envelopes were opened without authorization; and related violations.
Read more: Austrian court overturns presidential elections, calls rerun | Daily Mail Online
 

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There is no doubt but that like in most EU countries many of the the electorate of Austria were also deceived by the constant lies and exaggerations peddled in its mass media by the socialist left.
The losing side will always argue that the electorate were misled in some fashion or other. But there is an onus on each side to 'debunk' their opponents. So the remainers had ample opportunity across across a wide range of debates, interviews, articles, etc. etc. to correct any alleged misconceptions. That's part and parcel of how referendums work.

As for Austria, there were voting irregularities -the courts decided on a re-vote. Again, if the remainers in the UK feel there were irregularities they are perfectly free to go to court. Let the courts decide.;)
 

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The Austrians are uber-Catholic!
Actually they are not.

Its catholic mass attendance figure is a mere 9%.

Many in its top catholic hierarchy are theologically corrupt .

Anyway, I know it's tje Daily Mail but this sounds dodgy.


Read more: Austrian court overturns presidential elections, calls rerun | Daily Mail Online
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However fair dues to them for calling out the lefties who tried to corrupt the election.
 

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You had better explain yourself on that.
How the hell should I know?
Ahem. You're the one who brought up heretics. I was wondering whether they were of the Gnostic variety, or whether you threw the word out there as a rhetorical flourish in a moment of theological hubris.
 
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Actually they are not.

Its catholic mass attendance figure is a mere 9%.

Many in its top catholic hierarchy are theologically corrupt .
But culturally, the society would still be very Catholic and - whilst I'm open to correction from the relevant party - I think that Socratus was referring to the cultural sphere.
 

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Ahem. You're the one who brought up heretics. I was wondering whether they were of the Gnostic variety, or whether you threw the word out there as a rhetorical flourish in a moment of theological hubris.
I bought out the fact the Austria is not an uber catholic country as claimed by a poster.

Indeed it is hardly a catholic country at all since only 9% of the population attend sunday mass and many of its top clergy reject core catholic teaching.

But they do have the good sense to sniff out socialist rats hence this election e-run.
 

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