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Awful conduct of Ballaghaderreen solicitor-well connected in Church,Politics etc


stanley

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Very ininteresting,he had been red flagged and returned to old ways again. Law society have a lot to answer for .I feel there were big fish at play here,maybe involving the RC Church,some judges etc.

+ FF connections, DOC and the missus were very good at the nod nod wink wink game and in several articles it said they were on personal terms with MeHole, they climbed up the wealth ladder coincided with Celtic Tiger years.
 


Eoin Coir

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+ FF connections, DOC and the missus were very good at the nod nod wink wink game and in several articles it said they were on personal terms with MeHole, they climbed up the wealth ladder coincided with Celtic Tiger years.
well that goes without saying,she was joint hon treasurer of FF with Niall Collins, but slipped away quietly when this broke.Not much publicity either,I feel there is a lot more to come out here.
 

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well that goes without saying,she was joint hon treasurer of FF with Niall Collins, but slipped away quietly when this broke.Not much publicity either,I feel there is a lot more to come out here.


No glowing praise from MeHole or Collins for Mary two names, after many years of service and following in the footsteps of many notorious fundraisers/bookkeepers/sharks for FF, quite the opposite, poor woman was rushed out the backdoor, told to keep her head down and saw wood, don't talk to anyone.
 

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No glowing praise from MeHole or Collins for Mary two names, after many years of service and following in the footsteps of many notorious fundraisers/bookkeepers/sharks for FF, quite the opposite, poor woman was rushed out the backdoor, told to keep her head down and saw wood, don't talk to anyone.
she is Devine is from Frenchpark,thus Divine O Callaghan,her family are deep FF,her dad was one of Sean Doherty's and Haughey's henchmen,would pull out all the stops for the boss.No wonder she rose high in FF
 

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One wonders why the Law Society let him spend 20 years at the same antics.
I can’t understand why this isn’t bigger news, a massive failure by the LS. Will we see urgent action and reform? A receipt for the Baileys would be as likely.
 

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I can’t understand why this isn’t bigger news, a massive failure by the LS. Will we see urgent action and reform? A receipt for the Baileys would be as likely.
Big issue here,deep undercurrent involving Church and politics?
 

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I can’t understand why this isn’t bigger news, a massive failure by the LS. Will we see urgent action and reform? A receipt for the Baileys would be as likely.
Irish Times (well Peter Murtagh, an excellent reporter, specifically) have reported in depth on this, others, especially the local press (Roscommon Herald etc) and RTE appear to treading very cautiously around the story.

Has local radio been discussing it much?

I've noticed, that occasionally in Ireland when a big local player goes down the community are reluctant to condemn and occasionally rally around against Dublin rulers (thinking Sean Quinn, Michael Lowry etc)

We seem very forgiving to those that created wealth or brought investment to an area

O'Callaghan and family appear to involved in every aspect of the community, from the parish to local development groups etc.

But this time it wasn't Dublin, or the tax man who was being done over, but the good people of Ballaghaderreen.

Can the O'Callaghan's show their face locally?
 

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Possibly if it was the banks or state that were done in there would be sympathy for him,but fact that he robbed locals may change things a bit
 

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Irish Times (well Peter Murtagh, an excellent reporter, specifically) have reported in depth on this, others, especially the local press (Roscommon Herald etc) and RTE appear to treading very cautiously around the story.
You’re right about Murtagh. The IT has done a good job - we’ll miss that kind of journalism in the future - but the new part of the story broke six months ago. I suppose I’m more unhappy with the lack of news to report rather than the reporters. Progress is painfully slow. We can see where this is heading eventually and it shouldn’t take years.
 

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You’re right about Murtagh. The IT has done a good job - we’ll miss that kind of journalism in the future - but the new part of the story broke six months ago. I suppose I’m more unhappy with the lack of news to report rather than the reporters. Progress is painfully slow. We can see where this is heading eventually and it shouldn’t take years.


The second firm involved should have been pulled in months ago, the LS does not want to be shown up here but they are woefully at fault and there is over 20 years to be answered for.

Other firms who contribute to LS Compensation Fund must be furious with the historical nature of this debacle.
 

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Irish Times (well Peter Murtagh, an excellent reporter, specifically) have reported in depth on this, others, especially the local press (Roscommon Herald etc) and RTE appear to treading very cautiously around the story.

Has local radio been discussing it much?

I've noticed, that occasionally in Ireland when a big local player goes down the community are reluctant to condemn and occasionally rally around against Dublin rulers (thinking Sean Quinn, Michael Lowry etc)

We seem very forgiving to those that created wealth or brought investment to an area

O'Callaghan and family appear to involved in every aspect of the community, from the parish to local development groups etc.

But this time it wasn't Dublin, or the tax man who was being done over, but the good people of Ballaghaderreen.

Can the O'Callaghan's show their face locally?
Well there are 'wealth creators' and 'wealth displacers' and the jury seems to be out on who is what in this Law Society sponsored regulatory farrago.
 

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I don't think any of the coverage explains why exactly the practice came to the attention of the Law Society in the first place all that time ago.

Presumably on the basis of complaint.

Which means given the resumption of distinctly strange accountancy you'd have to ask a couple of questions- is the regulation of solicitors' practices sufficient in Ireland?

And how difficult would it be in the ordinary run of auditing annually to point out that the sum of client money in the bank and supposedly separate from the practice accounts and the figure in the accounts don't match?

That way you'd have a check each year and nip any such behaviour fairly quickly instead of having book-end queries generations apart.
 

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I don't think any of the coverage explains why exactly the practice came to the attention of the Law Society in the first place all that time ago.

Presumably on the basis of complaint.

Which means given the resumption of distinctly strange accountancy you'd have to ask a couple of questions- is the regulation of solicitors' practices sufficient in Ireland?

And how difficult would it be in the ordinary run of auditing annually to point out that the sum of client money in the bank and supposedly separate from the practice accounts and the figure in the accounts don't match?

That way you'd have a check each year and nip any such behaviour fairly quickly instead of having book-end queries generations apart.
Yes, the bigger worry is what this means for the profession generally. The LS should invite a team from the UK Solicitors Regulation Authority to to do a quick review (less than 12 weeks) of our procedures around protecting clients’ money and see if there are any gaping holes there that need to be closed immediately.
 

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Makes you wonder how many other solicitors are at exactly the same practice around the country. The Law Society wouldn't know and if they are supposed to be the regulators then you can be damn sure it is going on somewhere else.
 

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Makes you wonder how many other solicitors are at exactly the same practice around the country. The Law Society wouldn't know and if they are supposed to be the regulators then you can be damn sure it is going on somewhere else.
That’s my concern. You’d think the govt would be hopping a bit more smartly to know the score.
 

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That's the problem with self-regulation by any profession. If it is structured right and designed to eliminate practices which bring a profession into disrepute then it can and does work.

However if self-regulation is in place merely to prevent proper oversight, seen as 'onerous' by those in the profession, then it will end up bringing the profession into disrepute. And of course light touch self-regulation where in this case the Law Society seems to have stepped back decades ago and implied the problems at this partnership were now resolved then it becomes a green light for the undesirable behaviour to recommence.

And people who would use client's money to fund their own lifestyle are generally of the thick-necked variety in whatever profession and are likely to see that regulatory process as a temporary issue which will disappear- at which point they can again do as they wish.

Self-regulation where it isn't underpinned by real oversight is hardly any regulation at all. And of course whereas the majority in a profession will never have to encounter sanctions under any regulatory process it is the ones who will test any system who are the ones requiring proper oversight.
 

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Makes you wonder how many other solicitors are at exactly the same practice around the country. The Law Society wouldn't know and if they are supposed to be the regulators then you can be damn sure it is going on somewhere else.
Ken Murphy of the LS seems to be on many TV/Radio shows,an expert on everything,why does he not take on the rogues here?
 

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This shows the failings of the Law Society and it's ability to police errant member.

One wonders who the mentoring solicitor was?
A failure over two decades by the Law Society. Which of course polices itself. What other organization would let the cookie thief in situ beside the cookie jar.
 

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The second firm involved should have been pulled in months ago, the LS does not want to be shown up here but they are woefully at fault and there is over 20 years to be answered for.

Other firms who contribute to LS Compensation Fund must be furious with the historical nature of this debacle.
More a case of the LS, the courts never wanting their dirty linen aired in public. Because the public might demand reform.
 

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More a case of the LS, the courts never wanting their dirty linen aired in public. Because the public might demand reform.

Only proper legislation can sort out the LS but solicitors in Ireland are too powerful a group to be brought under control by the Govt and whilst Declan is a major embarrassment his fall from grace will be swept under the carpet as quietly as possible.
 

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