Awful conduct of Ballaghaderreen solicitor-well connected in Church, Politics etc

Ardillaun

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In such delicate and difficult matters the Law Society must work in the first instance for the benefit of its own members.
 
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This rogue solicitor was before court again 3 days ago,most awful case. He ws first placed on notice in 1990,and had to work under supervision,but played havoc again,very rotten

No indication in this report that the legal firm of his daughters and more importantly, his wife, works, as there was clients/punters/marks moved between the firms from earlier reports
 

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Given the story of a multitude of ‘issues’ and a feeble attempt at oversight way back in 1990, you‘d expect the authorities to have already examined as many transactions as possible that this lad was involved in since he started work as a solicitor.
 
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In such delicate and difficult matters the Law Society must work in the first instance for the benefit of its own members.
Which they did. Now lookit.
 

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Which they did. Now lookit.
I‘d like to see more foreigners at the top of these bodies who wouldn’t be afraid to ruffle the feathers of learned friends. The evidence suggests we are just scratching the surface of a widespread problem here.
 

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I‘d like to see more foreigners at the top of these bodies who wouldn’t be afraid to ruffle the feathers of learned friends. The evidence suggests we are just scratching the surface of a widespread problem here.
I understand its very difficult to the point of impossible to get a solicitor or barrister to help you take on a solicitor or barrister. That cosy shit has to go.
 

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What about a posse of foreign lawyers, mostly from the UK, brought in to examine practices that have issues from top to bottom? Maybe after five years some of the younger locals would get the hang of how it should be done and start replacing them. Silly, I know.
 
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How about regulating the buggers? Estate agents, auctioneers and solicitors particularly when it comes to property deals and matters are the most notorious liars imaginable.

I don't think that should be the case when they are dealing in the main with the most significant asset a person or family can be involved with in their lifetimes.

Self-regulation for these professions only provides a target for some of them who are just ethical free zones in a suit.
 

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How about regulating the buggers? Estate agents, auctioneers and solicitors particularly when it comes to property deals and matters are the most notorious liars imaginable.

I don't think that should be the case when they are dealing in the main with the most significant asset a person or family can be involved with in their lifetimes.

Self-regulation for these professions only provides a target for some of them who are just ethical free zones in a suit.

Now they have this guy out in the open with his trousers down, the Govt should get involved and make an example of him, his wife and his daughters, if required.

They have to go back to 1990 and examine all his financial records, bankrupt the pair of them to pay back any debts, sell personal assets, let them be the poster couple for legal abuse and criminality.
 

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For every solicitor caught at this kind of flagrant and disreputable way of business there will be another crew doing exactly the same thing and undetected. There's no danger in that forecast.
 

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No indication in this report that the legal firm of his daughters and more importantly, his wife, works, as there was clients/punters/marks moved between the firms from earlier reports
I agree,is the Law society looking into the new firm involving his wife & daughter(s)
 

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For every solicitor caught at this kind of flagrant and disreputable way of business there will be another crew doing exactly the same thing and undetected. There's no danger in that forecast.
How many solicitors forge will to benefit themselves or their friends. One lady did so,was only found out because she was made a judge,I think heather Perrin was her name.She was caught just by accident
 

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As long as solicitors and accountants and other professionals are allowed to handle client money and are in very little danger of being detected in a sort of pyramid scheme then you are going to get at least a small percentage defrauding clients.

One possible solution is that a legal fund is used instead, overseen by the Central Bank and Financial Regulator, a bit like the landlord/tenant deposit scheme in the UK which works very well and provides a certain amount of reassurance on either side of that debate. Solicitors should no longer handle client funds at all but should be charged with placing any client funds in that Central Legal Fund and getting a receipt for it to their client.

It would be so much easier to detect the signs of fraudulent activity or a solicitor's office playing games by the pattern of deposits and withdrawals. That could be an early sign that attention is needed in audit terms on that office.
 

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The only problem there is that the largest attempt at accessing such funds would be by the Irish Government. They wouldn't be able to ignore such a fund or the ability to spend it under the table buying elections.

It would have to be statutorily protected and absolutely ringfenced away from the sticky-fingered, which definitely describes past Irish Governments and their native inhabitants.
 

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The only problem there is that the largest attempt at accessing such funds would be by the Irish Government. They wouldn't be able to ignore such a fund or the ability to spend it under the table buying elections.

It would have to be statutorily protected and absolutely ringfenced away from the sticky-fingered, which definitely describes past Irish Governments and their native inhabitants.

TBH it would be too much for an FFer politician to look at without finding some way in by hook or by crook.
 

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The months go by and the process stumbles on laboriously. There’s no sense of urgency here at all. It’s almost as if the Law Society is waiting for us to forget about it.
 

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Like watching a robot trying to pass the Turing test, watching the Irish professional class try to get its head around the possibility they may have to pursue one of their own in order to stave off any regulation other than self-regulation.
 


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