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McSlaggart

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Mr Dodds said the EU definition of the backstop arrangements would have created a border down the Irish Sea.

“It is to all intents and purposes the break-up of the United Kingdom.”

He added: “So I say that the effect of what they’re saying would be the annexation of Northern Ireland. That would be utterly unacceptable.”

But Mr Coveney said the agreed backstop must be implemented as an “insurance mechanism” for people living in border counties, adding that from there a future relationship can be negotiated.

Tanaiste rejects Nigel Dodds

The problem for the UK is that they have already agreed the backstop. I know the UK is asking for a USA citizen to explain their position on their agreed backstop.

[video=youtube;WTbgsoHDc24]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTbgsoHDc24[/video]
 


michael-mcivor

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backstop will be the simple word that will tear the Tory / DUP apart- and Brexit will bury the conniving prat’s -
 

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Yes indeed and through your magnificent foresight and political cunning Mr. Dodds, you did agree to this option being part of the deal to date. Or are you still running with the unicorn option?

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mac tíre

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Doddsy's utterings today are contradictory, full of shíte and not worthy of someone who represents people, never mind his party.

Laughable, actually. Stale, stale DUP, propping up racist Tories. Sectarianism and racism are comfortable bedfellows.
 

Roll_On

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The backstop option is perfectly possible, all the Torys have to do is buy off the DUP, it won't be hard. A few slabs of Carling would get most of the work done.
 

vivabrigada

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Britain agreed the backstop deal in December, we all know what it means, if all else fails, the North stays in the EU. This is a total disaster for the rabidly pro-Brexit DUP.
So how do the Brits keep the DUP on board until the deal is finalised?
Easy, tell them they've only agreed to "a" backstop. The DUP bought it. Lol
Combine that with our demographics, sit back and buy plenty of popcorn.
The poeple of Ireland actually owe the Right-wingnut Brexiteers a debt of gratitude, A terrible beauty is born.
 

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Mr Dodds said the EU definition of the backstop arrangements would have created a border down the Irish Sea.

“It is to all intents and purposes the break-up of the United Kingdom.”

He added: “So I say that the effect of what they’re saying would be the annexation of Northern Ireland. That would be utterly unacceptable.”

But Mr Coveney said the agreed backstop must be implemented as an “insurance mechanism” for people living in border counties, adding that from there a future relationship can be negotiated.

Tanaiste rejects Nigel Dodds

The problem for the UK is that they have already agreed the backstop. I know the UK is asking for a USA citizen to explain their position on their agreed backstop.

[video=youtube;WTbgsoHDc24]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTbgsoHDc24[/video]


The backstop position as expressed in December is completely flawed.

Even the EU admit this now.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/irish-border-backstop-is-flawed-say-eu-officials-6sw5zqv7m
 

Se0samh

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ScoobyDoo

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You're getting a wee bit desperate now....:rolleyes:
Desperate? Have you read the wording of the agreement?

It is obvious it can't be achieved. The EU know that.

How do you propose you achieve everything stated in the December document?
 

Se0samh

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Desperate? Have you read the wording of the agreement?

It is obvious it can't be achieved. The EU know that.

How do you propose you achieve everything stated in the December document?
Yes, as did the British and, presumably the DUP, before they agreed to it...:D
 

vivabrigada

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Desperate? Have you read the wording of the agreement?

It is obvious it can't be achieved. The EU know that.

How do you propose you achieve everything stated in the December document?
It's up to the British to come up with a solution or the backstop stands regardless, there'll be no hard border either way and guess who knows what's coming?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-latest-dup-leader-vows-to-bring-down-theresa-may-if-she-breaks-red-line-on-border-a3823321.html?amp

Up the British Brexiteers!
 

AhNowStop

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It's up to the British to come up with a solution or the backstop stands regardless, there'll be no hard border either way and guess who knows what's coming?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-latest-dup-leader-vows-to-bring-down-theresa-may-if-she-breaks-red-line-on-border-a3823321.html?amp

Up the British Brexiteers!
Ha, tis no wonder wee doopedy Doods is getting shirty:roll:

Mr Verhofstadt also warned the UK to propose a solution for the Irish border by June, and not October, a date floated by Mr Davis

“We will not give our consent to a withdrawal agreement without a guarantee, a 100 per cent assurance, that there will be no hard border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic.”
 

Roll_On

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Please explain how NI can stay in the CU while the rest of UK exits CU?
Effectively there would be customs checks between NI and Scotland and production/sale of goods and services in NI or exported from NI would have to conform to EU regulation. New EU directives that are currently transposed into UK and Irish law will only be transposed into law in the ROI and NI. This will require Stormont to be able to effectively pass legislation, or alternatively the UK could impose EU regulation on NI while not imposing it in GB, a strange situation no doubt. The UK could probably outsource this duty to Dublin as they'll have more crucial things to talk about. Over time NI would become more economically integrated into the ROI than it is into the UK, which suits nationalists from an idealogical point of view.
 

Se0samh

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I am not desperate :lol:

I am asking you a question you don't seem to have an answer for.
The British are the ones who need to answer that, not me...they, after all, agreed to it, as presumably following their last minute interdiction, did the DUP; your desperation(which you seem desperate to deny :D) is based on what you fear that answer to be...:lol:
 

Roll_On

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Come to think of it the backstop could be very handy for the UK, it'd economically separate NI from the UK somewhat making NI much easier to dump on the ROI doorstep at a future date. They could then redistribute the funds to the NHS(read nuking some desperate middle eastern people).
 


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