BBC 'The View' - Nationalists to outnumber Unionists on the centenary of the gerrymandered artificial statelet, "Northern" Ireland..

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A disturbing aspect of Ireland's history has been uncovered by research finding that leading Nazis were sheltered and welcomed by the Irish establishment after the war.

A rogues' gallery that included fascists, Nazi collaborators and war criminals came to Ireland, including some who flourished and became respected members of the community...


Cathal O'Shannon, an Irish RAF veteran who feels that anti-British sentiment in Ireland led to Nazis receiving a warmer welcome than he did when he came home after the war
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Fourteen years after he had rescued Mussolini from a hilltop fortress in 1943, Skorzeny arrived at a reception in his honour held at Portmarnock Country Club.

The cream of Dublin society attended the event, including a young politician, Charles Haughey, who was later to become Ireland's most controversial Prime Minister.

Skorzeny made his name by raiding an Italian castle where Mussolini was held captive. Descending on the fortress in gliders, Skorzeny's men succeeded in freeing the dictator.

A year later, Skorzeny was involved in rounding up and torturing members of the German resistance after their failed attempt on Hitler's life.


Albert Folens, who died in 2003 at 86 after founding Ireland's leading academic text-book publisher, was involved in the Gestapo and Waffen SS.




The so-called 'Butcher of the Balkans', Andrija Artukovic, was another who sought and found sanctuary in Ireland with the help of a Franciscan order.

Artukovic served as interior minister in the Nazi puppet regime in Croatia. opening concentration camps and being involved in the genocide of up to one million innocent people.





Pieter Menten, a Dutch Nazi war criminal, moved to a Co Waterford





Helmut Clissmann was a World War II German spy involved in failed missions with the IRA. He later became a successful Dublin businessman


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1538969/Ireland-welcomed-Hitlers-henchmen.html
A few points here:
There were thousands of ex-Nazi operatives scurrying around Europe and indeed the world in the aftermath of the war. Statistically how many were likely to end up in Southern Ireland? So few as it turned out that they could all they got through in one documentary.
Skorzeny was a pure military operative. He was tried by a US military tribunal in Dachau in 1947: no conviction.

Some perspective here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/nazis/article/0,,475562,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/nazis/article/0,,191277,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/nazis/article/0,,545760,00.html
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Justice-Delayed-Britain-Became-Criminals/dp/184212126X/ref=sr_1_4/202-2053548-1667802?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179623210&sr=1-4
 
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As many as 7000 waffen ss soldiers settled in Britain after the war...many of these were officers and as late as 2015 there were still 25 alive
 

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Catholic doesn't = A UI Supporter!

Also will there be an actually a self declared Catholic Majority or just more Catholics than Protestants with a substantial number of others especially atheists?
Well this is the thing.

A BBC poll from 2014 showed a strong majority of Catholics wished to remain in the Union.

I myself am one such Catholic.
 

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Well this is the thing.

A BBC poll from 2014 showed a strong majority of Catholics wished to remain in the Union.

I myself am one such Catholic.

the clue is right there .. if ye still cant see it, then I guess you couldn't hit a cows ass with a banjo Banjo :?

anyway, hows she cutting Rory :lol: lol
 

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Well this is the thing.

A BBC poll from 2014 showed a strong majority of Catholics wished to remain in the Union.

I myself am one such Catholic.
No one has seen the details of what a UI would look like though. Including people in the ROI so hang about!
 

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Well this is the thing.

A BBC poll from 2014 showed a strong majority of Catholics wished to remain in the Union.

I myself am one such Catholic.
2014? In the context of Brexit, it seems such a long time ago. And Brexit could well be your problem if you wish to remain in the union. You see, a hard Brexit is a possibility - some could argue an increasingly likely possibility.

And that brings us to a more recent poll, taking account of the new reality that is Brexit. That poll was carried out almost 5 months ago, not almost 5 years ago.

90% of those who come from a cultural catholic background says they would vote to leave the union and reunite with the rest of Ireland in the event of a hard Brexit. Most 'Others' agreed with this option, too. While only just over 8% of those from a cultural Protestant background said they would vote for a UI, it is still a relatively large rise from previous polls.
Overall, those who said they would vote for a UI was almost 48%. Those who would vote to remain in the union amounted to almost 45.5%.
 

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A lot of scientists too...though many moved on to the US...



Many worked on the US space programme in the late fifties, early sixties, Von Braun told Jack Kennedy, in '62 we would have a man on the moon before the decade was out......done and dusted:D and worth mentioning, many of the German offspring working for NASA and SETI as we speak sir.
 

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2014? In the context of Brexit, it seems such a long time ago. And Brexit could well be your problem if you wish to remain in the union. You see, a hard Brexit is a possibility - some could argue an increasingly likely possibility.

And that brings us to a more recent poll, taking account of the new reality that is Brexit. That poll was carried out almost 5 months ago, not almost 5 years ago.

90% of those who come from a cultural catholic background says they would vote to leave the union and reunite with the rest of Ireland in the event of a hard Brexit. Most 'Others' agreed with this option, too. While only just over 8% of those from a cultural Protestant background said they would vote for a UI, it is still a relatively large rise from previous polls.
Overall, those who said they would vote for a UI was almost 48%. Those who would vote to remain in the union amounted to almost 45.5%.



Banjo know's all of that, he is simply trolling and attention seeking like most of the other onionist losers on here.
 

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I remember (others here probably saw it as well) Garret Fitzgerald doing an interview on RTÉ some time in the 00's on the North of Ireland, AIA, Peace Process in general and his views on Unionism etc. He said towards the end of the interview that words to the effect "it will not be until the mid 21st century" "if ever" that Ireland will be united. He may have been a nice, often intelligent man but he could talk some serious ************************! :) Like Seamus Mallon predicting that the SDLP were going to sail home as the biggest Nationalist party with an increased share of the vote in the 2001 GE election! :)
 

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I remember (others here probably saw it as well) Garret Fitzgerald doing an interview on RTÉ some time in the 00's on the North of Ireland, AIA, Peace Process in general and his views on Unionism etc. He said towards the end of the interview that words to the effect "it will not be until the mid 21st century" "if ever" that Ireland will be united. He may have been a nice, often intelligent man but he could talk some serious ************************! :) Like Seamus Mallon predicting that the SDLP were going to sail home as the biggest Nationalist party with an increased share of the vote in the 2001 GE election! :)

So-called "Northern Ireland will soon be ruled by Nationalists, and the reunification of Ireland is imminent.


BBC's 'The View' explained last night that after centuries of Ethnic Cleansing of Irish people by England in Ireland - culminating in the forced establishment of the gerrymandered artificial statelet "Northern" Ireland for their Unionists, Irish people will once again outnumber Unionists in the 6 counties of 9 county Ulster still under British occupation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...-view-19042018

So-called "Northern" Ireland was set up by England under its 'Government of Ireland Act 1920' - against the democratic will of the people of Ireland. Its only reason for existing was to have a permanent majority of Unionists in the rich industrial part of Ireland to service England's now defunct empire. Now on the centenary of its ignominious foundation, so-called "Northern Ireland will soon be ruled by Nationalists, and the reunification of Ireland is imminent

Here are some of the startling statistics for Unionists revealed on the show - Dr Paul Nolan, who specialises in monitoring the peace process and social trends, told BBC News that

Figures from the 2016 Labour Force Survey show that among those of working age 44% are now Nationalist and only 40% Unionist.

Figures from the Dept of Education show the difference is even more marked among schoolchildren with 51% Nationalist and only 37% Unionist.

BBC's 'The View' also reported that the only majority Unionists still hold is that among the over 60s, Unionists are winning that battle with Unionists being at 57%, compared to Nationalists on 35% - which begs the question, when is a win not a win?

Dr Nolan said "Three years from now we will end up, I think, in the ironic situation on the centenary of the state where we actually have a state that has a Catholic (Nationalist) majority."
 
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So-called "Northern Ireland will soon be ruled by Nationalists, and the reunification of Ireland is imminent.


BBC's 'The View' explained last night that after centuries of Ethnic Cleansing of Irish people by England in Ireland - culminating in the forced establishment of the gerrymandered artificial statelet "Northern" Ireland for their Unionists, Irish people will once again outnumber Unionists in the 6 counties of 9 county Ulster still under British occupation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...-view-19042018

So-called "Northern" Ireland was set up by England under its 'Government of Ireland Act 1920' - against the democratic will of the people of Ireland. Its only reason for existing was to have a permanent majority of Unionists in the rich industrial part of Ireland to service England's now defunct empire. Now on the centenary of its ignominious foundation, so-called "Northern Ireland will soon be ruled by Nationalists, and the reunification of Ireland is imminent

Here are some of the startling statistics for Unionists revealed on the show - Dr Paul Nolan, who specialises in monitoring the peace process and social trends, told BBC News that

Figures from the 2016 Labour Force Survey show that among those of working age 44% are now Nationalist and only 40% Unionist.

Figures from the Dept of Education show the difference is even more marked among schoolchildren with 51% Nationalist and only 37% Unionist.

BBC's 'The View' also reported that the only majority Unionists still hold is that among the over 60s, Unionists are winning that battle with Unionists being at 57%, compared to Nationalists on 35% - which begs the question, when is a win not a win?

Dr Nolan said "Three years from now we will end up, I think, in the ironic situation on the centenary of the state where we actually have a state that has a Catholic (Nationalist) majority."
The real question is how will the Protestant/Unionists respond this time around. Repartition? Violence? Or Genocide? It will be trickier with 24 hour news now the norm and iPhones everywhere so they'll have to be a bit cleverer.
 

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That's ethno nationalism for you. We'll stuff our definition of what Irish culture is down your throat and you'll learn to love it.
Well, we are going to have to choose between those who define Irish as being gaeilge and it's culture and those who will define Irish as being something that an individual gets to choose to define.

I'm no unionist but this choice between mono cultural Ireland and a plural Ireland is real.
Its difficult I know. We can absorb 13% White Protestant more easily than perhaps other groups. If you think that 6 Prods would be about half the population of Greater Dublin then the problem lessens. Times have changed.
 

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The real question is how will the Protestant/Unionists respond this time around. Repartition? Violence? Or Genocide? It will be trickier with 24 hour news now the norm and iPhones everywhere so they'll have to be a bit cleverer.
Genocide. Good luck with that lads.
 


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