Beginnings of an "Iranian spring"?

eoghanacht

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Second day of protests with protestors shouting anti regime and anti corruption slogans.

For the second day in a row, thousands of Iranians have taken to the streets in cities across the country to protest against the rising cost of living and economic corruption. But what started out as demonstrations against a very specific set of grievances has quickly turned into an expression of a more general malaise. On Friday, in addition to protesting against corruption, many people shouted out anti-government and anti-regime slogans and sentiments, expressing a more widespread anger about life in the Islamic Republic.

https://iranwire.com/en/features/5057

Iran cities hit by anti-government protests - BBC News

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/29/iranian-police-disperse-anti-government-protests


Check out @Samira_Ghaderi’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/Samira_Ghaderi/status/946860536880353285?s=09

Unconfirmed reports saying some army battalions have sided with protestors

https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/946771334788509696
 


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How cool could this be. I've met many Iranian ex pats who detest the regime in power there. Fantastic people. Would love to see them get their country back. Somehow I doubt it though.
 

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I seen that earlier on zerohedge.

There are unruly protests in Mashhad which is the second largest city in Iran.

Mashhad is both Shia and Iranian speaking. So this is not a separatist movement ( like the protests in the KSA and Bahrain ).

Masshad is also seen as being more observant of the belief system than Tehran. Christopher Hitchens once remarked that amongst the youth of Tehran there was a stronger pro-Eastern sentiment thsn in any other Middle Eastern Muslim state capital.

At some point the Mullahs will lose control. After nearly four decades of absurd slogans and absurd belief based rule - according to the reputed whims of a cult founder from 14 centuries ago - a lot of prople realise that it is a load of utter nonsense.

Copies of the God Delusion and Farsi translations of the New Testament are pirated and passed around. The very things that are deemed forbidden are in highest demand. Even if the regime stamps out the protests, the prevailing trend is towards abandoning theocracy.

After the Islamic Republic of Iran will come the Secular republic of Iran.

Also it would be positive if the Balochs on the SE were allowed to form their own state. In Pakistan the Baloch region is treated with vontrmot snd has been hoping for freedom.
 
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I hope it's the beginning of something but I have my doubts. The Islamofascist regime in Tehran is a past master a creating illusions of pseudo-democracy and fake debate to prevent any real change taking place. They even have elements of the left in the West regularly making excuses for them.
 

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How cool could this be. I've met many Iranian ex pats who detest the regime in power there. Fantastic people. Would love to see them get their country back. Somehow I doubt it though.
An ancient and diverse people, sadly the propaganda only serves to confuse the regime with the people.
 

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I hope it's the beginning of something but I have my doubts. The Islamofascist regime in Tehran is a past master a creating illusions of pseudo-democracy and fake debate to prevent any real change taking place. They even have elements of the left in the West regularly making excuses for them.
Example A.

You're aware the regime is in power due to the actions of western intelligence services.

It was well on the path to an open and functioning democracy until Mossadegh had the mad idea that the oil under the ancient soil of Iran wasn't actually British but belonged to the Iranian people.

Operation Boot/Ajax.

Come back when you have a clue.
 

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I hope it's the beginning of something but I have my doubts. The Islamofascist regime in Tehran is a past master a creating illusions of pseudo-democracy and fake debate to prevent any real change taking place. They even have elements of the left in the West regularly making excuses for them.
Those Swedish feminists being the most absurd and idiotic.

Banning manspreading on the metro system and then staying dilent about rape at a musuc event.

It just proves that virtue signallers are more dangerous than useless.
 

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We have been through this before. Watch it die like the last "Colour Revolution" in Iran. You wont get the Syria or the Ukraine repeated.
 

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It will be interesting to hear Maryam Nanazie's views on this.

As an Iranian born ex-muslim/athiest critic of the regime, she pulls no punches on her sttacks on the Mullah.

Salmsn Rushdie might slso have an interesting reaction considering thr regime's fatwshs against him for publishing The Satanic Verses and for the fact that he is a high profile ex-muslim.
 

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I wouldn't hold my breath. The system is robust and appears to still have the support of a big wedge of the population, plus the govt is lucky the Iraqi and Syrian wars appear to be winding down. Such unrest may even strengthen the hands of reactionary elements against Rouhani over the coming months.

Longer-term, the outlook is brighter. I'd give the mullahs a generation at most to wise up and retreat to Qom, a la the lad Sistani next door, or face a civil war.
 

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The Antichrist which I am approves of this tumult.
If your surname is Merkel then not only do you approve of chaos, but you likely cause some as well.
 

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The theocracy is indeed weakening. But it is not yet weak enough to collapse. Give it another ten years with loads of foreign policy misadventures and it will surely collapse.

And in that time period it might efficiently collapse the even more vile regime in Riyadh with the relrntless posturing between the two.
 

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If your surname is Merkel then not only do you approve of chaos, but you likely cause some as well.
I caused hassle in a Clarion Road address last year. Clarion is the biblical trumpet mentioned in the Book of

Revelation. That is how I am the ANtichrist. NOwadays, I cause veritable upset in a Clubhouse. Not to mention

uproar on the minibus which takes me to and from the Clubhouse.
 
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Example A.

You're aware the regime is in power due to the actions of western intelligence services.

It was well on the path to an open and functioning democracy until Mossadegh had the mad idea that the oil under the ancient soil of Iran wasn't actually British but belonged to the Iranian people.

Operation Boot/Ajax.

Come back when you have a clue.
Absolute nonsense. Mossadeq was in the early 50's. Whatever else has been sustaining the regime in power since 1979, it hasn't been the Western intelligence services.
 

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Had things been left alone in 1953 things could very well be different today unfortunately we will never know it is doubtful the Islamic revolution would have come about without the 1953 coup and reinstallation of the puppet of the west the Shah.
 

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Absolute nonsense. Mossadeq was in the early 50's. Whatever else has been sustaining the regime in power since 1979, it hasn't been the Western intelligence services.
Of course Mossadeq would have secularized Iranian society with a socialist twist.

Which would presumably have caused the Mullahs to launch a power grab at an earlier date.

Anyway the people are getting fed up with theocracy & being ruled by the whims of a murdering, raping, lying, plagiarist from 24 centuries ago.
 

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Probably mossad rent a crowd, the Iranian people know the true enemies of Iran. They are smart enough to figure out that if they go down the "spring" route they will end up living in war torn sh*te holes like Lybia, Syria, and Iraq. Lybians are missing the days of free education and healthcare. Iran wisely uses its state owned oil companies to fund education, health and infrastructure projects. The west hates this and wants the likes of shell pocketing the spoils.
 

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Authoritarianism is an Iranian tradition going back millennia. If the mullahs recede from centre stage we may not see Western-style democracy replacing them.
 


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