Belfast Case thrown out of Court amid concerns of Security Force Collusion

Iarmhi Gael

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From what I gather -

The defence for a dissident Republican have evidence to show that The security Forces had an agent who knowingly sent out Dissident republicans to fire bomb premises on the Boucher Road in Belfast in 2006 in the hope of a blanket of Dissident arrests.

He alleged that another individual, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had instigated the fire bomb attack, while working as a paid agent of the state.

Niall Murphy, of Kevin Winters and Company, said: "When our client made his defence in crown court by means of a defence statement, he made a very particular defence.

"The defence was that he insisted that another individual, who cannot be named for legal reasons, commissioned, prepared and instigated this attack for which our client was charged
BBC News - Man cleared of fire bombing says agent set him up


Effectively the State firebombed Belfast in the hope of Dissident republican arrests
 


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From what I gather -

The defence for a dissident Republican have evidence to show that The security Forces had an agent who knowingly sent out Dissident republicans to fire bomb premises on the Boucher Road in Belfast in 2006 in the hope of a blanket of Dissident arrests.

BBC News - Man cleared of fire bombing says agent set him up

Effectively the State firebombed Belfast in the hope of Dissident republican arrests
Tis like deja vu over again
An Phoblacht: Trial collapses over role of 'British agent'

The allegation seems to be that British agent provocateurs were behind the attacks.
 

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Would it concern you NV, if you found out that dissident attacks were being orchestrated by the security services? Or is you loyalty to the state so blind you would prefer not to know?

BTW it's fairly conclusive that an agent provocateur was involved in the Ballymena case.
 
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Would it concern you NV, if you found out that dissident attacks were being orchestrated by the security services? Or is you loyalty to the state so blind you would prefer not to know?

BTW it's fairly conclusive that an agent provocatuer was involved in the Ballymena case.
Of course it would concern me, but if it was an efficient and safe way in rounding up dangerous dissident criminals then I would have to reappraise my opinion.
 

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Of course it would concern me, but if it was an efficient and safe way in rounding up dangerous dissident criminals then I would have to reappraise my opinion.
Instigate crime. Round up the criminals. Is there no end to the amount of naked corruption true blue Ulster loyalists are prepared to justify? Silly question.
 

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Instigate crime. Round up the criminals. Is there no end to the amount of naked corruption true blue Ulster loyalists are prepared to justify? Silly question.
Loyalists have never understood civil rights. It has always been "any means to an end." Be that mean internment, or gerrymandering, or collusion, or instigating dissident violence in hopes of a "greater catch", loyalists have no problem with it. It's the disease of the privileged, who never question the attacks on the rights of the people because it's always some other people that are being targetted, which is fine with those who rally on the side of the status quo, because they believe government should serve them alone and the laws should protect them alone.
 

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I think it is called entrapment.
a defense that claims the defendant would not have broken the law if not tricked into doing it by law enforcement officials
 

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The defence team claim ......
Oh here we go, lying RCs up to their tricks again...

The Ballymena incident was a precedent. It does happen!

But go on, if you must, demean yourself and defend the Crown.
 

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Instigate crime. Round up the criminals. Is there no end to the amount of naked corruption true blue Ulster loyalists are prepared to justify? Silly question.
I said reappraise, not agree.

But don't let that get in the way of your xenophobia.
 

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I said reappraise, not agree.

But don't let that get in the way of your xenophobia.
How is it xenophobia when you are both chips off the same block? :rolleyes:
 

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I said reappraise, not agree.
Spooks burnt down B & Q, put people out of work and got other people worried about terrorism. That is wrong. It's a pity you can't bring yourself to say so.

What else have the spooks done? What are they doing now?
 

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Loyalists have never understood civil rights. It has always been "any means to an end." Be that mean internment, or gerrymandering, or collusion, or instigating dissident violence in hopes of a "greater catch", loyalists have no problem with it. It's the disease of the privileged, who never question the attacks on the rights of the people because it's always some other people that are being targetted, which is fine with those who rally on the side of the status quo, because they believe government should serve them alone and the laws should protect them alone.
What they refuse to understand is that they could be on the receiving end of violent acts instigated by the security services.
 

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Again when in trouble picador plays the religious card ....
In trouble with who, cruimh? And why do you keep putting your pronouncements in bold. Do you suffer from delusions of grandeur?

No need to answer mate petunia

Just have a little read about the incident in Ballymena.
 

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Spooks burnt down B & Q, put people out of work and got other people worried about terrorism. That is wrong. It's a pity you can't bring yourself to say so.

What else have the spooks done? What are they doing now?
I'm not aware of this incident. Point me to some substantial evidence.
 

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You are struggling here picador - again I'll ask -

do you know the religion of the accused or his defence team ?

Nobody else raised religion on this thread - you are so sectarian.
Given that he is a republican from Derry I'd say you do.

Goodnight mate petunia
 


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