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Fr. Ted Crilly

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What war? Vicious gangs of thugs attacking their own neighbors is not a war If there had been a war Belfast and Londonderry would no longer exist. War doesn't discriminate in the war zone if it moves its killed
The brit state considered it a war.
That's why they sent in their dirty army, the same dirty army who turned on Nationalists/Catholics and colluded with loyalist murder gangs....
 

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How many murdering brit army scum have been jailed?
How many MI5 scum have been jailed for colluding with the Glenanne Gang and others?

Get up the f**king yard.
I direct your attention to my previous comment. The British are not and have not been 'at war' with the Irish it was the IRA who declared war not the British. Of course if there had been a real war the Irish would still be picking the bits of remains off the debris You cant have half a war, that relatively few people were killed is no thanks to the IRA who killed more Irish people than anyone its thanks to the British the deaths and permanent injuries were relative to a real war very few
 

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I direct your attention to my previous comment. The British are not and have not been 'at war' with the Irish it was the IRA who declared war not the British. Of course if there had been a real war the Irish would still be picking the bits of remains off the debris You cant have half a war, that relatively few people were killed is no thanks to the IRA who killed more Irish people than anyone its thanks to the British the deaths and permanent injuries were relative to a real war very few
Ya, the brit war against the Irish was done by proxy.......MI5/Glenanne etc etc....
Coward state.
 

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I direct your attention to my previous comment. The British are not and have not been 'at war' with the Irish it was the IRA who declared war not the British. Of course if there had been a real war the Irish would still be picking the bits of remains off the debris You cant have half a war, that relatively few people were killed is no thanks to the IRA who killed more Irish people than anyone its thanks to the British the deaths and permanent injuries were relative to a real war very few
The brit war cabinet hid under the table and the prime minister hid in a cupboard when the Provos mortars came a calling during the Gulf war- think the Brits got the boot out of Afghanistan 3 times over the last 100 years or so-hardly a good fighting nation the Brits-
 

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Did they? If they did it didn't do them much good in Brighton where the IRA injured among others a minister and permanently disabled an innocent woman and of course they did get another minister using a car bomb. 2 ministers and what a hundred Brits injured Compare that to the thousands of Irish people the IRA murdered

Yes, the Brits did give up in Afghanistan and so did everyone else from America to Russia. It seems some people just cant be civilized.
 

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Did they? If they did it didn't do them much good in Brighton where the IRA injured among others a minister and permanently disabled an innocent woman and of course they did get another minister using a car bomb. 2 ministers and what a hundred Brits injured Compare that to the thousands of Irish people the IRA murdered

Yes, the Brits did give up in Afghanistan and so did everyone else from America to Russia. It seems some people just cant be civilized.
You can’t call the RUC UDR RIR UVF UFF members that the IRA executed Irish- they died to be foreign British- at least give them a bit of dignity if nothing else-
So you supported the Communist Russian army invading Afghanistan and blaming the Afghans for fighting back because they weren’t Civilized-
 

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You can’t call the RUC UDR RIR UVF UFF members that the IRA executed Irish- they died to be foreign British- at least give them a bit of dignity if nothing else-
So you supported the Communist Russian army invading Afghanistan and blaming the Afghans for fighting back because they weren’t Civilized-
No, I can't recall that I cared one way or the other. I will say this for the old USSR women were equal and abortion was legal long before the west began to play catch up which now that Islam is sending us all back to the middle ages may not last much longer.

Ah, if only the IRA had stopped at murdering loyalists, police and soldiers but they didn't it was much more fun to terrorize your own neighbors and their children. Tragic but the IRA had to do it it was the only way to ensure the neighbors stayed, er, loyal...
 

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The brit war cabinet hid under the table and the prime minister hid in a cupboard when the Provos mortars came a calling during the Gulf war- think the Brits got the boot out of Afghanistan 3 times over the last 100 years or so-hardly a good fighting nation the Brits-

Wee Mickey displaying his total historical ignorance and utter gormlessness as usual, the facts tell a different story":

First Afghan War:

The First Anglo-Afghan War (also known by the British as the Disaster in Afghanistan)[3] was fought between the British East India Company and the Emirate of Afghanistan from 1839 to 1842. Initially, the British successfully intervened in a succession dispute between emir Dost Mohammad (Barakzai) and former emir Shah Shujah(Durrani), whom they installed upon conquering Kabul in August 1839. The main British Indian and Sikh force occupying Kabul along with their camp followers, having endured harsh winters as well, was almost completely annihilated while retreating in January 1842.[1][2] The British then sent an Army of Retribution to Kabul to avenge their defeat, and having demolished parts of the capital and recovered prisoners they left Afghanistan altogether by the end of the year. Dost Mohamed returned from exile in India to resume his rule.

Second Afghan War:

"...was a military conflict fought between the British Raj and the Emirate of Afghanistan from 1878 to 1880, when the latter was ruled by Sher Ali Khan of the Barakzai dynasty, the son of former Emir Dost Mohammad Khan.
This was the second time British India invaded Afghanistan. The war ended after a series of military victories by the British against various Afghan forces.[5] The Afghans agreed to let the British attain all of their geopolitical objectives from the Treaty of Gandamak. Most of the British and Indian soldiers withdrew from Afghanistan. The Afghan tribes were permitted to maintain internal rule and local customs but they had to cede control of the area's foreign relations to the British, who, in turn, guaranteed the area's freedom from foreign military domination as a buffer between the British Raj and the Russian Empire. Afghanistan also officially ceded various border territories to the British empire.[8]

Third Afghan War:

The Third Anglo-Afghan War (Persian: جنگ سوم افغان-انگلیس‎), also known as the Third Afghan War, the British-Afghan war of 1919[5] and in Afghanistan as the War of Independence,[5] began on 6 May 1919 when the Emirate of Afghanistan invaded British India and ended with an armistice on 8 August 1919.[6][7][8][9][10] The war resulted in the Afghans winning back control of foreign affairs from Britain, and the British recognizing Afghanistan as independent.[11] According to British author Michael Barthorp, it was also a minor strategic victory for the British because the Durand Line was reaffirmed as the political boundary between Afghanistan and the British Raj, and the Afghans agreed not to foment trouble on the British side. (Which was the whole reason behind British involvement in Afghanistan in the first place!)

Mickey, as usual, talking out of his hoop.
 

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Wee Mickey displaying his total historical ignorance and utter gormlessness as usual, the facts tell a different story":

First Afghan War:

The First Anglo-Afghan War (also known by the British as the Disaster in Afghanistan)[3] was fought between the British East India Company and the Emirate of Afghanistan from 1839 to 1842. Initially, the British successfully intervened in a succession dispute between emir Dost Mohammad (Barakzai) and former emir Shah Shujah(Durrani), whom they installed upon conquering Kabul in August 1839. The main British Indian and Sikh force occupying Kabul along with their camp followers, having endured harsh winters as well, was almost completely annihilated while retreating in January 1842.[1][2] The British then sent an Army of Retribution to Kabul to avenge their defeat, and having demolished parts of the capital and recovered prisoners they left Afghanistan altogether by the end of the year. Dost Mohamed returned from exile in India to resume his rule.

Second Afghan War:

"...was a military conflict fought between the British Raj and the Emirate of Afghanistan from 1878 to 1880, when the latter was ruled by Sher Ali Khan of the Barakzai dynasty, the son of former Emir Dost Mohammad Khan.
This was the second time British India invaded Afghanistan. The war ended after a series of military victories by the British against various Afghan forces.[5] The Afghans agreed to let the British attain all of their geopolitical objectives from the Treaty of Gandamak. Most of the British and Indian soldiers withdrew from Afghanistan. The Afghan tribes were permitted to maintain internal rule and local customs but they had to cede control of the area's foreign relations to the British, who, in turn, guaranteed the area's freedom from foreign military domination as a buffer between the British Raj and the Russian Empire. Afghanistan also officially ceded various border territories to the British empire.[8]

Third Afghan War:

The Third Anglo-Afghan War (Persian: جنگ سوم افغان-انگلیس‎), also known as the Third Afghan War, the British-Afghan war of 1919[5] and in Afghanistan as the War of Independence,[5] began on 6 May 1919 when the Emirate of Afghanistan invaded British India and ended with an armistice on 8 August 1919.[6][7][8][9][10] The war resulted in the Afghans winning back control of foreign affairs from Britain, and the British recognizing Afghanistan as independent.[11] According to British author Michael Barthorp, it was also a minor strategic victory for the British because the Durand Line was reaffirmed as the political boundary between Afghanistan and the British Raj, and the Afghans agreed not to foment trouble on the British side. (Which was the whole reason behind British involvement in Afghanistan in the first place!)

Mickey, as usual, talking out of his hoop.
The forth Afghan war when the Brits were kicked out of Helmand province -
 

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The brit war cabinet hid under the table and the prime minister hid in a cupboard when the Provos mortars came a calling during the Gulf war- think the Brits got the boot out of Afghanistan 3 times over the last 100 years or so-hardly a good fighting nation the Brits-
When it comes to fighting first world armies on their own, the Brits have a shameful history of dropping their weapons and running, France, Singapore, Norway, Crete. etc. Even opponents with decent small arms (AK47s) we have the Basra and Helmand "Withdrawals while the going was good" as the American troops stood around breaking their sh1te laughing at them..
 

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The forth Afghan war when the Brits were kicked out of Helmand province -
Wrong again, a 100% failure rate Mickey, pack it in eh? You're just continuing to make a tit of yourself wee lad.
 

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The brit state considered it a war.
That's why they sent in their dirty army, the same dirty army who turned on Nationalists/Catholics and colluded with loyalist murder gangs....

No it didn't.

They used the Army because that was the appropriate part of the security forces to use.
 

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"But it was for a leaked document, entitled Future Terrorist Trends, written while he was still BGS (Int), that Jimmy became a well-known figure. In it, he pointed out that the IRA had taken a calculated decision to regroup from their earlier position of weakness. It now had a new and effective cellular structure, and was equipped with all the sinews of war - men, money and weapons - and must be taken seriously. This typically accurate assessment, however unpalatable to those who did not want to accept it, enabled the army to respond appropriately."

General Sir James Glover
 

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Wrong again, a 100% failure rate Mickey, pack it in eh? You're just continuing to make a tit of yourself wee lad.
Harper on the harp thinks the Brits are still patrolling Helmand province- Lol-they were kicked off them roads like they were kicked off our streets in the six-
 

Fr. Ted Crilly

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No it didn't.

They used the Army because that was the appropriate part of the security forces to use.
Ah right.
So the brit army were in Ireland as a peacekeeping force?
Must explain Bloody Sunday and all the other murders they and the loyalist terrorists they colluded with carried out, right?
 
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