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Ben Gilroy strikes two significant blows against Banks this week


rockofcashel

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Ben Gilroy, of Direct Democracy Ireland fame.. is having a right old go at banks and how they have been operating in the past week. And there is hardly a thing being said about it in the national media. One has to wonder, why not.

Now, I know that he'll probably be attacked for a lot of things on this thread, which have nothing got to do with the subject matter.. but it seems like he's having some impact legally.. and if that impact increases, then maybe DDI could get a decent foothold into the Irish political scene.

In the case today, Gilroy has challenged the issue of securitisation of loans.. that is, the bundling up of loans which are then sold on to a third party. And the High Court judge has said he has a case, and has sent that case to full trial.

As huge numbers of mortgages in this country have been "securitised", the outcome of any full trials could have huge implications for both mortgage holders and banks in the mortgage market

BREAKING NEWS - Mortgage securitisation finally sent for full trial | Direct Democracy IrelandDirect Democracy Ireland

In another case this week taken by Ben against an Irish bank, the case was settled out of court for a 7 figure sum. The details have been kept confidential, but no doubt whatever tactic he used to force the bank to settle, will be used again further down the line.

All I can say to him on this, is.. fair play... time someone took them on head on
 


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ROC, not thinking about running for DDI ROC? :shock:
 

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Ben Gilroy, of Direct Democracy Ireland fame.. is having a right old go at banks and how they have been operating in the past week. And there is hardly a thing being said about it in the national media. One has to wonder, why not.

Now, I know that he'll probably be attacked for a lot of things on this thread, which have nothing got to do with the subject matter.. but it seems like he's having some impact legally.. and if that impact increases, then maybe DDI could get a decent foothold into the Irish political scene.

In the case today, Gilroy has challenged the issue of securitisation of loans.. that is, the bundling up of loans which are then sold on to a third party. And the High Court judge has said he has a case, and has sent that case to full trial.

As huge numbers of mortgages in this country have been "securitised", the outcome of any full trials could have huge implications for both mortgage holders and banks in the mortgage market

BREAKING NEWS - Mortgage securitisation finally sent for full trial | Direct Democracy IrelandDirect Democracy Ireland

In another case this week taken by Ben against an Irish bank, the case was settled out of court for a 7 figure sum. The details have been kept confidential, but no doubt whatever tactic he used to force the bank to settle, will be used again further down the line.

All I can say to him on this, is.. fair play... time someone took them on head on


Does this mean that Ben is striking a blow against the taxpayer?

What does Ben expect? Is it to borrow money to buy property and not to pay it back?
 

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Your source is DDI. No one else. DDI tells you that Ben has won an unnamed amount from an unnamed bank over an unnamed issue and you believe that unquestioning and state it as fact. I have some beans to sell you.

And a "significant blow" is now simply being brought to court? Seriously? When have you EVER described the simple act of having a trial as a significant blow? If he wins, THAT'S a significant blow.

I look forward to the next OP when you look at the FF/SF/FG/Labour site and rush on here to report all the twaddle they write as fact.

Interestingly enough there is no article on this case, nothing on the previous hearings in this "long running case" and the only search results from "securitisation" and "Freeman" on their site appears today.

But don't think about it. You've read it on a political site, it must all be true.
 
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I don't understand the significance of the case. If he was arguing that because the bank had bundled up the loans and sold them on, the bank had no right to pursue borrowers for the mortgages, then I might see the point.
 

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I don't think Direct Democracy are interested in standing up for the people of Ireland.
They like to use phrases like " standing up for the people of Ireland "against the Banks"


They want the people who borrowed money to buy property to keep the property which they refer to as " thier homes" and also avoid repaying what they borrowed.

The people of Ireland are the Banks . We want our money back or the property that secured the loans.

Give us a break Ben!
 

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I don't understand the significance of the case. If he was arguing that because the bank had bundled up the loans and sold them on, the bank had no right to pursue borrowers for the mortgages, then I might see the point.
It makes sense for the Bank to act as agents to administer the loans whoever the actual bond owners are.

Why should Ben have a say in whether a lender is allowed to sell an interest in a loan?
 

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Gilroy is just another type of gombeen.

He took out big loans and wants to socialise them to the taxpayer.

Much of the cost of his courtcases + loans will ultimately be paid by us.

If he gets into office, you think such a self serving gombeen won't shaft the taxpayer if it's in his own interests?

When will we ever learn. The last thing we need is another politician claiming they can save us, merely to get to the trough so they can instead serve the rich and powerful and set themselves up for life.

We need to start building grassroots organisations, co-ops, etc and learning to do it for ourselves. Take back our country and make reliance on (and enslavement by) theatre politics a thing of the past.
 

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It makes sense for the Bank to act as agents to administer the loans whoever the actual bond owners are.

Why should Ben have a say in whether a lender is allowed to sell an interest in a loan?
He is a citizen and he is entitled to take a case to the courts, if he wishes. If they don't like it, they can throw it out.
 

IbrahaimMohamad

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He is a citizen and he is entitled to take a case to the courts, if he wishes. If they don't like it, they can throw it out.
Ben is blowing a smokescren to hide his objective of debt forgiveness for greedy property speculators!
 

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Guys,

Ben isn't standing up for the little guy, nor is he standing up for the greedy speculator or the banks.

Ben is only in this for himself. DDI are a front for the freeman movement, they are merely preying on the desperation of people in dire straits so that he can advance his public persona.

Now, if you think every law enacted since the foundation of the state is voluntary and doesn't need to be complied with, be my guest to follow him. Those of us with a slight grounding in reality will just watch from the sidelines and despair as he amasses more victims.
 

IbrahaimMohamad

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The courts will decide if it is legal or not, regardless of how much he does or doesn't blow.
If I wanted to get a Bank to write off my debts I would start a National campaign to get thousands of borrowers to use every device to frustrate the bank from repossessing thousands of properties to force them to quietly forgive my debts in return for me stopping encouraging others to make thins expensive and difficult for the banks.
 

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That graphic indicates our role on the EU stage. As you can see we are very much "at the heart of Europe".

Our feelings should of ecitement and pride. Another "green jersey moment". Look at how significant we have become.

To use that well worn cliche, we "punch above our weight".

Well, all of us who pay PAYE do, at any rate.
 

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I saw a video of this Gilroy chancer blocking a property from eviction. He came out with some mumbo-jumbo legal language and claimed credit for stopping the eviction when clearly it was the number of people present that stopped it.

The property owner has since been evicted with no sign ofGilroy.
 

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Gilroy is a dangerous kind of nutter, peddling his fake legal advice and getting people into more difficulties than they were before. At least with the ULA they recognize that law is not an opt in or out system for anyone.
 

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