Bertie Ahern and the €98901 pension - News: he is giving it up

gombeennation

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It is true that he has absolutely nothing of interest to say therefore the only conclusion must be that he is bringing people along to these talks somehow and someone else must be paying for them. As they say, follow the money. Is there any way that Irish/EU taxpayers money could be subsiding these talks somehow?
I hope you are not suggesting that the bert is using this speech thing as a money laundering excercise?
dont you know that honduran authorities have long looked at the irish celtic tiger with envy.
they admired our knowledge based economy from afar.
now they get the chance to hear precious words from one of the chief architects of this financial miracle - of course they are going to jump on it.
just because there seemed to be something dodgy with the bert and US dollars and there was questions about stop overs in caribean tax havens - one should not jump to the conclusion that the bert is now filtering any ill gotten gains by setting up a joke dinner circuit in central america.
talk like that could get you banned from here - so be careful.
 


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Bertie is king leech of the public sector. Remmber he exclaimed "long live the puublic sector" on night his buk was launched. I'd love to see him lose his pension like that FF woman did today, it would break the spiv's heart to lose it even untill the next GE when he will step down. If he wants to maintain his ordinary bloke image with the plebs in the run up to a run fo rht aras he better give the pension back now.
 

Newsy

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Because this isn't Venezuela and the tax system should not be abused to punish fellow citizens just because you're envious of their financial circumstances.
With all due respect......it has nothing to do with envy.......and everything to do with 'doing the right thing' and 'showing leadership'. These are servants of the people, afterall and should lead, by example.
 

KATHY

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According to MI Bertie said he has already taken some cuts and will consider his position with regard to his pension should the Govt ask him to do so !! Is he now putting it up to Cowen ??
 

FakeViking

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Bertie: Biffo, you first.

Biffo, No Bertie, you first.

Bertie: No Biffo, after you

Biffo: Bertie, please

Bertie: No Biffo, you go ahead

Biffo: Bertie, after you

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turdsl

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It is up to Ruari Quinn and Bruton plus the rest of the opposition to move this morning,
that will put the pressure on Bertie
 

Monday Monday

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The sooner Pat "The Bert" quits the sooner the revisionists can get to work on this image.

"Sure didn't he give the old-folks the bus pass."

"He might have been a bit of a rogue but he was the best Taoiseach we ever had."

"A sure he only went bad after they tried to shaft him over the guns."


Or is that someone else I'm thinking of.
 

LDF

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Those opposition TD's who are in receipt of ministerial pensions need to take themselves out of the firing line as quickly as possible this morning by agreeing to forego their pensions until they retire. Their current stance of waiting for legislative change before they do so is no longer sustainable. We need to get this issue focused on Bertie Ahern and Michael Woods (on whose behalf Brian Cowen intervened to inflate his pension).

Cowen is under enormous pressure over his handling of the Boucher and MGQ pensions and he will not be able to pass the buck to the same extent when it comes to his own TD's.

If the opp parties play this one right we could be witnessing the dying weeks of this God-awful government.
 

laidback

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Stagg and Durcan didn't do themselves any favours on Morning Ireland today.

Arrogant gob********************es!

Stagg - who has now decided to give it up. 'Sure it was only €56 pw and that won't make much difference to the economy..'

They just don't get it. It about morality and leadership not the amount of the pension.

Expect major spinning about other workers who have pensions and do some work.
 

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I wonder will they now look at civil & public servants who retire early, become consultants, and do their old jobs while also receiving their pension.
 

Dunlin3

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I'm getting mad again, Stagg on the radio this morning saying that by him giving up his pension he hoped it wouldn't affect the pensions of others that are working. THEY JUST DON'T F**CKING GET IT DO THEY?

They shouldn't be drawing a pension for a job they haven't retired from. The job is politics and it is public money. I have no problem with a retirement age of 60 from politics if they so choose but NO pensions should be paid while in the receipt of a salary. End of rant!
 
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consultant

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The arguments put forward by various government Ministers about why MGQ should give up her pensions apply equally to Bertie Ahern.

So why are we waiting to hear from them on his continued cashing of the monthly cheque?

Aristodemus on another thread suggests if his pension was touched he would quit his seat. Well let's test that theory.
Is his pension, like his pay for being a TD even though he rarely attends the Dail, like his expenses even though supplied with a car and drivers, part of a pay-off deal to have had him resign as Taoiseach by any chance?

I have to say also, those posters who have suggested that all opposition TD's give up their pensions immediately are correct. It's hard to hold the moral high ground when the sands are shifting beneath your feet.
 

stanley

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It is up to Ruari Quinn and Bruton plus the rest of the opposition to move this morning,
that will put the pressure on Bertie

Totally agree, senior figures from the Opp upping the ante on Ahern should get the desired result.

Ahern will be up at Lukes now having the brekkie, have sent the driver down to the Dail to clock him in and be waiting for him to come back so he can head down to Fagins for a few lunchtime scoops.

The State car should be withdrawn from him and others to Ahern it is like a dick extension.
 

bobbysands81

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Bertie Ahern is claiming €98901 in pension payments yearly on top of his TD salary of approx €100,000 plus benefits.

He has also secured recognition as an artist from the Revenue Commissioners so he does not have to pay tax on his I did it my way book sales.

What arguments or methods can we marshal to explain to him and his party colleagues the error of his ways?

Full list of sitting TDs claiming Ministerial pensions, and not, here -

On the take

Bertie Ahern is in the Ace of Spades position in that deck.
Great post He3.
 

Rebel CNC

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It is up to Ruari Quinn and Bruton plus the rest of the opposition to move this morning,
that will put the pressure on Bertie
Ruarai Quinn and Bertie are apparently the two most entrenched opponents of any change to the current cushy system.
 


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