Bill Cosby Sex Assault Mistrial: Juror Says He Didn't Believe "Well Coached" Accuser

Kilbarry

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Cosby juror says he didn't believe 'well-coached' Constand

The juror, who spoke with the Inquirer and Daily News at his home on the condition of anonymity, would not say whether he wanted to convict or acquit Cosby. But he said the seven men and five women on the panel were nearly evenly split after 52 hours of deliberations, a deadlock that prompted Montgomery County Judge Steven T. O’Neill to declare a mistrial on Saturday. He also said Cosby had already “paid dearly” for the allegations and should not be retried. ......

Votes were split “up the middle: young and old, black and white, men and women,” he said....... But in the end, he said, “the jury was stalled on everything.”

Cosby, 79, “has paid dearly” already for the allegations against him, the juror said, because his career has been destroyed. He said he did not think District Attorney Kevin R. Steele should pursue a retrial, as he has said he will do. “They should’ve left it closed. … There wasn’t enough evidence to move the case forward,” he said, echoing Cosby’s lawyer’s arguments about the 2005 decision by then-District Attorney Bruce L. Castor Jr. to close the case without charging Cosby.

Now, he said, there was nothing to consider beyond decade-old evidence. “No stained garment, no smoking gun, nothing,” the juror said. .....And he won’t pay attention if there is a second trial, he said. “It would be a waste of Montgomery [County] money with the money it cost,” he said.


But they'll waste the money anyway - to try to convict an 80 year old man.
 


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Difficult case for jury , I am sure in their guts most of them felt he was guilty but there was just no hard evidence to point to that. In the end it was probably split between those who went wit instincts and those who followed the letter of the law when deciding.
 

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he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said
 

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its a trial that could never been won.
 

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I think that there is just as much of an imperative to pursue justice with an old man or woman as a young one. The 80 year old who molested kids and kept his freedom is a terrible insult to justice and fair play. If they had remorse and came forward to get treatment that might be different story but justice would still need to be done, Cosby on the other hand allegedly kept up his crime spree.
I note you have a particular interest in not seeing abusers brought to justice, a sole issue poster in fact.
 

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Anyone who laughed at all those Bill Cosby jokes is going to hell. For example, this one is particularly cruel.


This is not a laughing matter.
 

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its a trial that could never been won.
Yup. You've got to disregard the other allegations and then it's 1 accuser who's changed their story several times in order to match the unchanged story of the defendant.
 

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Yup. You've got to disregard the other allegations and then it's 1 accuser who's changed their story several times in order to match the unchanged story of the defendant.
Lots of other allegations.
 

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Lots of other allegations.
That is what made this case so difficult for the jurors , they would have been well aware of all the other accusations but by law they were required not to factor those in while making a decision on this on case from one accuser, on the merits of this case alone it would have been very hard to bring a guilty verdict.
 

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Yup. You've got to disregard the other allegations and then it's 1 accuser who's changed their story several times in order to match the unchanged story of the defendant.
even if the particular accuser had been more on point , with a celeb defendant you will always have part of the jury sympathetic towards the individual, the evidence in such a case will tend to be deficient
 

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even if the particular accuser had been more on point , with a celeb defendant you will always have part of the jury sympathetic towards the individual, the evidence in such a case will tend to be deficient
We'll never know. Because the evidence in this specific case was clearly deficient. Every minute wasting time on this rather than pushing forward on the civil cases is another minute closer to death and totally escaping justice Cosby gets.
 

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even if the particular accuser had been more on point , with a celeb defendant you will always have part of the jury sympathetic towards the individual, the evidence in such a case will tend to be deficient
Equally, a celeb accused will always have a part of the jury against them.

And these days, there is also a portion of any jury that believes all men are rapists and wants to convict because they cannot conceive of not believing the woman.

It's a minefield.
 

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Was this another racially polarised jury?

Yes celebs get accused of stuff all the time but there are so many accusers, it's just she's the only one that wasn't affected by the statute of limitations on rape in California.
 

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The evidence is compelling but the rich guy gets off. Meanwhile, some poor yob will be found guilty on the basis of one accuser's uncorroborated testimony.

It's hard to know how a witness is supposed to avoid the 'well-coached' tag without sounding inconsistent.
 

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Do Large Numbers of Accusers Mean Guilt?

That is what made this case so difficult for the jurors , they would have been well aware of all the other accusations but by law they were required not to factor those in while making a decision on this on case from one accuser, on the merits of this case alone it would have been very hard to bring a guilty verdict.
"All of the other accusations" don't necessarily mean anything. In the Cliff Richards case, there was one accusation of child abuse, then the police invited the BBC to film themselves raiding his house and very quickly there were about 10 more allegations. Half of them the police did not even send to the Crown Prosecution Service, they were so nonsensical. In the other half the CPS didn't take long to announce there would be no prosecution.

There are dozens of allegations in the Bill Cosby case. However it has extended over more than a decade and if that had happened to Cliff Richard, no doubt there would be the same number of accusers!
 

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"All of the other accusations" don't necessarily mean anything. In the Cliff Richards case, there was one accusation of child abuse, then the police invited the BBC to film themselves raiding his house and very quickly there were about 10 more allegations. Half of them the police did not even send to the Crown Prosecution Service, they were so nonsensical. In the other half the CPS didn't take long to announce there would be no prosecution.

There are dozens of allegations in the Bill Cosby case. However it has extended over more than a decade and if that had happened to Cliff Richard, no doubt there would be the same number of accusers!
he has stated he gave sleepytime drugs to women in the past?
 

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he has stated he gave sleepytime drugs to women in the past?
Yes but giving grown women drugs that they take willingly is not proof of rape. There is a reason why all the other cases fell foul of the Statute of Limitations and why this one was made just before the statute period expired. This woman waited for a year after the event before making her claim of rape and the prosecutor judged over a decade ago that there wasn't enough evidence to have a trial. Now there was a mistrial with a hopelessly deadlocked jury and they are going to try again?
 


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