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Blair must be arrested


arcadeparade

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Tony Blair must be prosecuted, not indulged like Peter Mandelson. Both have produced self-serving memoirs for which they have been paid fortunes; Blair's, which have earned him a £4.6m advance, will appear next month.

Now consider the Proceeds of Crime Act. Blair conspired in and executed an unprovoked war of aggression against a defenceless country, of a kind the Nuremberg judges in 1946 described as the "paramount war crime". This has caused, according to scholarly studies, the deaths of more than a million people, a figure that exceeds the Fordham University estimate of deaths in the Rwandan genocide.

In addition, four million Iraqis have been forced to flee their homes and a majority of children have descended into malnutrition and trauma. Cancer rates near the cities of Fallujah, Najaf and Basra (the latter "liberated" by the British) are now higher than those at Hiroshima. "UK forces used about 1.9 metric tonnes of depleted uranium ammunition in the Iraq war in 2003," the Defence Secretary, Liam Fox, told parliament on 22 July. A range of toxic "anti-personnel" weapons, such as cluster bombs, was employed by British and US forces.

Such carnage was justified with lies that have been exposed repeatedly. On 29 January 2003, Blair told parliament: "We do know of links between al-Qaeda and Iraq . . ." Last month, the former head of MI5 Eliza Manningham-Buller told the Chilcot inquiry: "There is no credible intelligence to suggest that connection . . . [it was the invasion] that gave Osama Bin Laden his Iraqi jihad." Asked to what extent the invasion exacerbated the threat to Britain from terrorism, she replied: "Substantially."

The bombings in London on 7 July 2005 were a direct consequence of Blair's actions.
Full article here: New Statesman - Blair must be arrested
 

Aristodemus

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Tony Blair was the greatest Prime Minister Britain ever had. For what he achieved in Ireland should be sufficient. For his decision to support George Bush for the liberation of Iraq elevates him above any other statesman in the last half century.
When the history books come to be written he will be mentioned above such luminaries as Mandela and Ghandi whose influence was more localised.
 

CarnivalOfAction

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Much though I dislike Pilger - +1
+1 eile. Pilger is 1 of the few principled journalists left. At a conferral for an honourary degree from DCU, he revealed that he had Irish ancestry. Makes me proud.
 

CarnivalOfAction

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Tony Blair was the greatest Prime Minister Britain ever had. For what he achieved in Ireland should be sufficient. For his decision to support George Bush for the liberation of Iraq elevates him above any other statesman in the last half century.
When the history books come to be written he will be mentioned above such luminaries as Mandela and Ghandi whose influence was more localised.
Only if Hans Christian Anderson does the writing.
 

arcadeparade

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Tony Blair was the greatest Prime Minister Britain ever had. For what he achieved in Ireland should be sufficient. For his decision to support George Bush for the liberation of Iraq elevates him above any other statesman in the last half century.
When the history books come to be written he will be mentioned above such luminaries as Mandela and Ghandi whose influence was more localised.
He is one of the greatest war criminals Britain ever had, 1 million people killed, 4 million made refugees, a country destroyed, because of a war of imperialism which was based on lies.

As for the history books, you could be right, because history is written by the winners, and the good guys dont always win. The people of Iraq lost by living under a brutal western puppet regime, then lost again when the puppet tried to cut his strings and the big boys came in to finish the job.

The winners are the same as usual, the powerful few, the wealthy and their politicians, beating the weak majority, the people of the world.

Interesting that you mention Mandela, obviously you dont mind terrorists when they capitulate to the rich and settle for the crumbs thrown at them, winning a political democracy but keeping the economic apartheid in place, which was built and continues to grow on brutality and inequality.
 

amandaharris

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Tony Blair was the greatest Prime Minister Britain ever had. For what he achieved in Ireland should be sufficient. For his decision to support George Bush for the liberation of Iraq elevates him above any other statesman in the last half century.
When the history books come to be written he will be mentioned above such luminaries as Mandela and Ghandi whose influence was more localised.
You idiot moron imbecile gob********************e.
 

Mister men

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Tony Blair was the greatest Prime Minister Britain ever had. For what he achieved in Ireland should be sufficient. For his decision to support George Bush for the liberation of Iraq elevates him above any other statesman in the last half century.
When the history books come to be written he will be mentioned above such luminaries as Mandela and Ghandi whose influence was more localised.
:D Quality
 

niropiro

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Since when is overthrowing Saddam Hussein's fascist dictatorship in Iraq and replacing it with a freely democratically elected government a war crime?

Since when is fighting murderous Islamic terrorists and insurgents who were killing hundreds of innocent people in suicide bombings a war crime?

If the invasion of 2003 had not been launched Saddam Hussein, his sons and his evil regime would still be in power and the Iraqi people would still be under the yoke of his savage dictatorship.

Do you want to tell these people that their democratic freedoms are illegal?



This is the mass grave of only a tiny sample of the victims of the Saddam regime.



It is a war crime to liberate a country from tyranny? Really????
 

toughbutfair

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Stupid thread.

Who is going to arrest the ex PM of the UK, it is as ridiculous as saying Bush should be arrested. The most powerful countries in the world do not have their leaders arrested.

Whether you like that or not doesn't matter -that's life.
 

toughbutfair

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Since when is overthrowing Saddam Hussein's fascist dictatorship in Iraq and replacing it with a freely democratically elected government a war crime?

Since when is fighting murderous Islamic terrorists and insurgents who were killing hundreds of innocent people in suicide bombings a war crime?

If the invasion of 2003 had not been launched Saddam Hussein, his sons and his evil regime would still be in power and the Iraqi people would still be under the yoke of his savage dictatorship.

Do you want to tell these people that their democratic freedoms are illegal?



This is the mass grave of only a tiny sample of the victims of the Saddam regime.



It is a war crime to liberate a country from tyranny? Really????
Lefties are not in favour of democracy - they love muslim terrorists these days.
 

ifreannach

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Lefties are not in favour of democracy - they love muslim terrorists these days.
you dont do reality tbf do you?

you think liberating iraqis so they can die of cancer or watch as their families are brutalised and humiliated is alright?

Blair will see justice, not a doubt in my mind about that.

I can't believe the stunning ignorance of posters on this thread, just read the news and open your eyes

 The US Isn't Leaving Iraq, It's Rebranding the Occupation  : ICH - Information Clearing House

Tomgram: Engelhardt, Out, Damned Spot! | TomDispatch
 

ifreannach

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Since when is overthrowing Saddam Hussein's fascist dictatorship in Iraq and replacing it with a freely democratically elected government a war crime?

Since when is fighting murderous Islamic terrorists and insurgents who were killing hundreds of innocent people in suicide bombings a war crime?

If the invasion of 2003 had not been launched Saddam Hussein, his sons and his evil regime would still be in power and the Iraqi people would still be under the yoke of his savage dictatorship.

Do you want to tell these people that their democratic freedoms are illegal?



This is the mass grave of only a tiny sample of the victims of the Saddam regime.




It is a war crime to liberate a country from tyranny? Really????
should i post more recent photos for you, say 2004 fallujah, basra, baghdad, nasra mmm how about stats to show you the rising incidents in cancer or maybe you should shut the fvck up about democracy and liberation because its obvious you aint got a very good grasp of reality
 

toughbutfair

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you dont do reality tbf do you?

you think liberating iraqis so they can die of cancer or watch as their families are brutalised and humiliated is alright?

Blair will see justice, not a doubt in my mind about that.

I can't believe the stunning ignorance of posters on this thread, just read the news and open your eyes

*****The US Isn't Leaving Iraq, It's Rebranding the Occupation***** : ICH - Information Clearing House

Tomgram: Engelhardt, Out, Damned Spot! | TomDispatch
Regardless of whether you think he acted legally or not, who is going to arrest the ex PM and close ally to the USA. Who has that might?
 

ifreannach

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Stupid thread.

Who is going to arrest the ex PM of the UK, it is as ridiculous as saying Bush should be arrested. The most powerful countries in the world do not have their leaders arrested.

Whether you like that or not doesn't matter -that's life.
poor tbf, i reckon your the kind of cretin that would bow to queen and drool at the prospect of a photo op with biffo

and no thats not life, far from it and if i get the opportunity i would arrest the scum and failing that spit in their face
 

ifreannach

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Regardless of whether you think he acted legally or not, who is going to arrest the ex PM and close ally to the USA. Who has that might?
might does not make right, stand up be a man or failing that live on your knees like a coward
 

Destiny's Soldier

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On 15 June, the International Criminal Court made the landmark decision to add aggression to its list of war crimes that can be prosecuted. It defines this as a "crime committed by a political or military leader which by its character, gravity and scale constituted a manifest violation of the [United Nations] Charter". International lawyers described this as a "giant leap". Britain is a signatory to the Rome statute that created the court and is bound by its decisions.
This is the part of Pilgers article which interests me. It's adopting the Nuremberg standard.
 

toughbutfair

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might does not make right, stand up be a man or failing that live on your knees like a coward
And the world should be at peace etc

Get with the real world. How can you arrest the leader of a country much more powerful, you might feel like a big man but when they bomb your country to pieces nobody will think it was the right thing.

Pragmatism is more important than righteousness.
 
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