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Blood thristy Trendies


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Am I the only one concerned with peoples attitudes towards death and the creepy humour they show when discussing it? Personally I'm rather sickened by their jokes particuarly about kids but worse is the fact that I seem to be alone among my generation who think its trendy and cool the more violent minded you are.

There is no doubt that we live in a violent obsessed culture. fewer people seem to give a dam when vulnrable kids or women are harmed.

Most sickening was a joke going around about a woman who was raped recently.

I'd hate to think that one day we may come to rely on these freaks. I bet they're exactly the types to stand idle watching someone been ropped or beaten up as well. Same clowns to turn around singing rebel songs and how great it is to be IRish. how many would walk the walk is what I ask. shameful

Rant over.
 

dresden8

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Wow. That's fairly generic.

When exactly did we joke about a woman being raped? You seem sure of your facts. Present them. Tommy also seems sure. We can trust him can't we?
 

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Wow. That's fairly generic.

When exactly did we joke about a woman being raped? You seem sure of your facts. Present them. Tommy also seems sure. We can trust him can't we?
I'm not referring to any incidents occuring on this forum although the recent thread could be included. wont discuss the rape incident as its currently been investigated.
 

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I'm not referring to any incidents occuring on this forum although the recent thread could be included. wont discuss the rape incident as its currently been investigated.
Run away little boy you're dealing with the specialists nowl
 

tipp revolution

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Them video games have the youth desthroyed
 

dresden8

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We seem to have a fairly generic thrust from the FGers to destroy free speech on this site. Purely in our interests of course.
 

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It really depends on the context. If you get offended by Princess Diana jokes, it's time to toughen up. But jokes about, say, Sandy Hook are disgusting.

As for rape jokes, they are never funny. Ever.
 

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I think the OP makes a good if somewhat generalised point using an anecdote to illustrate it and as a starting point for a discussion. I don't think facts are necessary. I'm not entirely sure about the title but as I'm in my 40's the term trendies may have a different cultural connotation.

I think to be honest, this kind of behaviour has always existed but it was previously limited to social interaction and verbal communication. The ease and speed with which people communicate through the written word these days seems to make it more apparent and of course the anonymity creates a sense of bravado and evasion of the consequences of such utterances.That said I suspect that sooner or later the law will catch up with the social/technical changes and will eventually do what all laws do in practice and act as a deterrent.
 

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It really depends on the context. If you get offended by Princess Diana jokes, it's time to toughen up. But jokes about, say, Sandy Hook are disgusting.

As for rape jokes, they are never funny. Ever.

It's funny (sic) how taboos around humour change. We are naturally revolted by the thought of anyone joking about Sandy Hook, but when Princess Diana died there was the same taboo...comedians and magazines daring to make a joke about her were almost torn apart

Now it seems it's ok to joke about her.

Lenny Bruce said comedy was tragedy plus time...

As a woman and a feminist I agree with you in not finding rape funny, but that was not always the way in society:

I remember sometime in the 80s seeing Niall Tobin doing Brendan Behan's Borstal Boy in the Gaiety Theatre...he played it brilliantly for laughs and the audience roared with laughter at his sallies and his Dub accent

"See yer man over there" said Niall in the character of Behan "He's in here for rape. Ah sure, I suppose the course of true love never did run smooth..."

I remember the sharp intake of breath and then the stone silence from the audience....

We had evolved as a society, and rape was suddenly no longer funny....
 

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Hilton Edwards reading aloud from the newspaper :" I see Miss X received £5000 compensation in court for being raped..."

Micheál MacLiammóir :"What? As well ?"

Went down a storm at the time I believe..

I've noticed a nasty streak of misogyny on this site too, I hate to say..
 

Troy_337

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Am I the only one concerned with peoples attitudes towards death and the creepy humour they show when discussing it? Personally I'm rather sickened by their jokes particuarly about kids but worse is the fact that I seem to be alone among my generation who think its trendy and cool the more violent minded you are.

There is no doubt that we live in a violent obsessed culture. fewer people seem to give a dam when vulnrable kids or women are harmed.

Most sickening was a joke going around about a woman who was raped recently.

I'd hate to think that one day we may come to rely on these freaks. I bet they're exactly the types to stand idle watching someone been ropped or beaten up as well. Same clowns to turn around singing rebel songs and how great it is to be IRish. how many would walk the walk is what I ask. shameful

Rant over.
Jokes can release pent-up feelings of anxiety or anger.
 

cathalbrugha

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Hilton Edwards reading aloud from the newspaper :" I see Miss X received £5000 compensation in court for being raped..."

Micheál MacLiammóir :"What? As well ?"

Went down a storm at the time I believe..

I've noticed a nasty streak of misogyny on this site too, I hate to say..
I've noticed a nasty streak of feminism, I hate to say, nastyness is in the eye of the beholder I suppose.. I find it to be somewhat transexual.. A mixture of Teacher knows best/Professor knows better.. Some would see it as insidious.. Some would see it as deliberate, straight forward well thought out ignorance.. The outrage against it always rationed out, calculated to a T, and measured for pleasure.. It depends on the days audience.. Classical Paedeastry can oft be explained away as some sort of Intellectual discourse, an illness, an urge, and may only be met wit a murmur of discontent .. Some feathers can't be ruffled.. Or so some believe..'less Lugs be raised from the dead and returns to part the hordes like the Dead Sea to render his own form of justice on the malcontents and the sneering peasantry.. Other forms of paedeastry are just straight forward, a smaller type of nastyness.. But nasty nonetheless..
 

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We seem to have a fairly generic thrust from the FGers to destroy free speech on this site. Purely in our interests of course.
Wow, dresden8, that's fairly specific!

Fairly bullsh1t, too, if you don't mind a non-FG-er saying so.
 

cathalbrugha

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It's funny (sic) how taboos around humour change. We are naturally revolted by the thought of anyone joking about Sandy Hook, but when Princess Diana died there was the same taboo...comedians and magazines daring to make a joke about her were almost torn apart

Now it seems it's ok to joke about her.

Lenny Bruce said comedy was tragedy plus time...

As a woman and a feminist I agree with you in not finding rape funny, but that was not always the way in society:

I remember sometime in the 80s seeing Niall Tobin doing Brendan Behan's Borstal Boy in the Gaiety Theatre...he played it brilliantly for laughs and the audience roared with laughter at his sallies and his Dub accent

"See yer man over there" said Niall in the character of Behan "He's in here for rape. Ah sure, I suppose the course of true love never did run smooth..."

I remember the sharp intake of breath and then the stone silence from the audience....

We had evolved as a society, and rape was suddenly no longer funny....
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think he was trying to tell you he didn't find rape jokes funny, period. It must be my youth, but I never found them to be funny either.. As a working class man and a feminist, I'd have to disagree with you on that score, although perhaps it was accepted in wider society..

I don't recall that part of Borstal Boy, are you sure that's not from the Quare Fella? What was the reply? "Which bloke? The Senator or the Td?"
 
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Just a remark about the OP title, do they still use the word 'trendies' in Ireland? When I was young it was just a word used against anyone who had a non-traditional opinion about something, e.g. religion.

Who are the 'trendies' today then? And what happened to the trendies from the '80's and 90's?
 

gatsbygirl20

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Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think he was trying to tell you he didn't find rape jokes funny, period. It must be my youth, but I never found them to be funny either.. As a working class man and a feminist, I'd have to disagree with you on that score, although perhaps it was accepted in wider society..

I don't recall that part of Borstal Boy, are you sure that's not from the Quare Fella? What was the reply? "Which bloke? The Senator or the Td?"

You may be right about The Quare Fella......And now I'm wondering if it was not Tobin's one man show based on the writings of Behan which also ran in the 80s....I thought it was Borstal Boy, but now that you question it, I can no longer be sure....

But anyway, it was in the Gaiety, and it was sometime in the 80s....and I always saw that audience reaction as a defining moment. Ten years earlier the audience would have laughed along.

If you are young you will have missed all that. The teenage boys I teach are very clued in about racism, sexism, etc.

But when I was a young woman, it was perfectly acceptable to make jokes about rape. Guys made jokes about rape in my presence. Men had no problem saying that there was "no such thing as rape, just a woman who changed her mind"

You heard that one often enough....

That and "she was probably asking for it"

I know nobody would say that now, but believe me they said it then.
 
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