Bonnie Watch Revisited....



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Alban MaGinness (SDLP MLA) - ''I'm not just speaking as an elected politicican when I say this, I'm also speaking as a Lawyer. This is Internment.''

Gerry Conlon (Guilford Four) - ''We're heading down the road of Guantanamo with this''.
 

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Picked off one-by-one..

Unlike many Irish men, the British Government learns from history and does not repeat the same mistakes again, this time round they are acting more subtly they are picking people up one by one and locking them up. There is no major public concern no public outcry and the process continues. It saddens me and I’m sure all of you that some of those who were interned themselves in 1971 now hold the keys to the cells of Martin Corey and others.
Gerry McGeough was running for election... He was still singled out for abuse and special treatment. That's the point that Malachy Steenson was making about individuals being carefully selected and 'picked off one by one'.
Gerry McGeough Exposing the OTR Cover-Up

First of all, Hello, John! How are you? It's a delightful coincidence that today, March the 8th, actually marks the seventh anniversary of my arrest in 2007 as I left the Count Centre in Omagh Co. Tyrone having stood as an independent candidate in that election – a Republican candidate - and among the many ironies involved was that they said when they arrested me ... when asked why they didn't arrest me sooner...like over the previous number of years when I lived in Tyrone ... they said they couldn't find me! Even though I was probably the most high-profile candidate in that particular election itself.

Now bear in mind most of the time I spent there was during a dirty protest and as you know I have seven stents in my heart. I had to undergo heart operations while in prison and return to a wing where excrement was smeared all over the cells. Where urine/faeces mixes were laying in puddles all around the wings.

I honestly believed these people hoped that I would die in there. But thanks be to God we survived it.

And lo and behold all their lies and corruption is now being exposed.

And I think this is really at the heart of the whole thing: the cover-up that has been going on.

At any given time during that whole nightmare which my family and I went through the Sinn Féin leadership could have put an end to it.

They easily could have done it.

We had asked for Gerry Kelly to come into court during the various hearings and had he done so - within five minutes the case would have collapsed - had he done what he eventually did in the Downey case in London a few weeks ago.

So they effectively sacrificed me. I became a political sacrifice in the interest of secret deals.
 

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A British Judge in a British Court, Judge Tracey, who oversaw the release of Martin Corey, who was Interned without trial, following his release under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, had this to said that 'his incarceration was 'in direct breach of his human rights':

During proceedings Judge Treacy expressed his difficulty presiding over a case in which most of the “alleged” information wasn’t made available to him. After seven weeks of deliberation, on July 9, 2012 Judge Treacy concluded that the decision to keep Martin Corey incarcerated was in direct breach of his human rights and granted unconditional bail to Martin who was to be released later that day..
Martin Corey served his full life sentence for killing two RUC men. He was released in 1992, back when Good Friday was known as a dour religious day in Ireland. There is no returning Corey to jail, if Corey deserves jail, then he deserves a trial to determine what offences he has allegedly committed.

Not agreeing with the GFA is not a criminal offence. If it was, lock up the entire DUP.
Release Martin Corey Committee

The Release Martin Corey committee was formed in April 2010 in response to the internment of Veteran Republican Martin Corey from Lurgan, Co. Armagh. Three-and-a-half years now Martin Corey has been imprisoned. To speak about Martin’s current situation it is important that we understand Martin's background.

When a young man Martin joined the Republican Movement and in 1973 he took part in an ambush against three RUC members along with other Republicans, during which one RUC man died. For his part in this Martin was given a life sentence. Martin spent the next 19 years in jail and was finally released in June 1992. His release pre-dated the failed Stormont (Belfast) Agreement by six years and so he was not subject to the conditions agreed upon with that. Many people have confused Martin’s release with that of the prisoners released under the Stormont Agreement and that is why I mention it here today.

From1992 until 2010 he lived in Lurgan, where he set up a business with his brother, quietly and without incident. Martin was, and remains, a Republican and a member of Republican Sinn Féin.

In April 2010 he was visited at his home by the RUC/PSNI. They informed Martin they were taking him into custody as his licence was revoked by the then British secretary of state in the Occupied Six Counties, Shaun Woodward.

Shaun Woodward decreed that the reason for Martin’s detention would have to remain confidential. Neither Martin Corey nor his legal representatives saw, let alone had the right to examine, the reasons for Martin's incarceration, meaning that Martin had no recourse to defend himself against this closed material not requiring evidence, only on the word of the British secretary of state.

An Advocate was appointed to the court by the Parole Commissioners; this person would be able to view the open and closed evidence. This special Advocate is excluded from discussing any details of the case – not just with Martin and his legal team, but even with the Judge hearing the case. The very idea that someone who is appointed by the people detaining you to be impartial flies in the face of common sense.

Once Martin was interned, he was held under the direction of the Parole Commissioner. In March 2011 and in May 2011 the Parole Commissioners considered Martin’s case for his release. During the course of these proceedings members of the British ‘security forces’ gave closed evidence on Martin. There has been no evidence given in open court, the British ‘security personnel’ gave evidence to the parole commissioners in a closed session from behind a screen with no lawyers present.

In August 2011 the Parole Commissioners gave their judgment - they refused to release Martin Corey.

Following this Martin’s legal team initiated proceeding for a judicial review, which took place in April and May of 2012. This case was presided over by Judge Seamus Treacy (an experienced human rights judge). During proceedings Judge Treacy expressed his difficulty presiding over a case in which most of the “alleged” information wasn’t made available to him. After seven weeks of deliberation, on July 9, 2012 Judge Treacy concluded that the decision to keep Martin Corey incarcerated was in direct breach of his human rights and granted unconditional bail to Martin who was to be released later that day.

Martin Corey was taken from his cell in Maghaberry to reception and processed to be released. He waited inside while his friend Jim McIlMurray waited outside in the car park to collect Martin. A phone call to the jail from the office of the British secretary of state ordered that Martin remain in jail as the Judge did not have the relevant authority to release him. Martin was taken back to his jail cell. This action can only be described as a cruel and vindictive act.

Following this a public outcry ensued, political and human right advocates were outraged at this blatant over-ruling of the judicial process. The question has to be asked: Who is making court decisions in the Occupied Six Counties in Ulster – the judges or the British government? While in Martin Corey’s case the answer is obvious, it is the British Government, but in how many other cases has the British government interfered and it has not been made public?

Martin’s legal team put in an immediate appeal. In the days following, Martin’s case was heard in the High Court by the chief justice - Judge Seamus Treacy having the country on a pre-arranged holiday on the evening he heard the judicial review and made the ruling to release Martin. The High Court upheld the decision of the British secretary of state, Martin's release was blocked and so Martin's internment continues.

Martin should have had a Parole hearing in August 2012, this was postponed by the Parole commissioners. It was subsequently postponed three more times. The date set now is next Monday, November 11, a full 15 months overdue.

You are being told by the British and 26 County governments via a complicit media, that there is no longer internment in Ireland, that it is abolished. But I ask you what else could describe the conditions of Martin's incarceration? He has been charged with nothing, he has not been told what he is accused of, his lawyers don't know what he is accused of, the judges don’t know what he is accused of, he faces no trial and has no release date. What supposed crime has he committed? No one knows! This is the most blatant case of internment in Ireland today and I ask you to support Martin. We must speak on Martin's behalf as he cannot speak for himself.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out–
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out–
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out–
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me–and there was no one left to speak for me.
 
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Its the dissies trying to divide the community. Anton bit
Its in the middle of the road Anton. Put there by Dissies to kick off with the cops and get people like you blaming Gerry Kelly for defending his community. As I said, you took the bait, hook, line and sinker
When you start scratching beneath the surface some of the people behind some of the recent hoax attacks have now come forward to say that the Security Services put them up to it.. :shock:

So what you have is the Intelligence Services recruiting people to carry out attacks, and the Intelligence Services tipping the courts off, about who is a threat, and who isn't a threat.. :shock:
[video=youtube_share;Ssj36PgFUGI]http://youtu.be/Ssj36PgFUGI[/video]

The PSNI spokesman let the cat out of the bag here when he said that they'd arrested almost 300 people since 2010. The Intelligence Services are directing all of this from London. This 'Secret Evidence' is the same type of 'Secret Evidence' which led to the Miscarraige of Justice of the Birmingham Six and the Guildford Four. These Intelligence Services are the same people who directed the Loyalist Death Squads who carried out the Dublin and Monaghan bombings in 1974.
261 people that the PSNI have said in the spotlight documentary that have been arrested and sent to prison since April 2010, have not been convicted. That's why it's called Internment by Remand. They're being sent to prison, and then released because there's No Evidence. One or two cases could be called human error. Over 200 cases in three years is a different matter entirely..
The video which was posted in 2013 in which the Second-in-Command of the PSNI said that they had been given a quota of people to arrest, and that they had almost achieved it, has since been removed, but Internment-By-Remand has been the official policy since 2010.
 

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The so called republican bonfires yesterday has really highlighted the differences in political leadership between Nationalism and Unionism.

While unionist politicians like East Belfast MP Gavin Robinson lined up to make mealy mouthed statements regarding dangerous and hate filled unionist bonfires, nationalist representatives have been very clear in their condemnation and appeal for the PSNI to uphold the law and protect working class areas from the hoods.
A Policing Board member who has been seen orchestrating riots, associating with members of the Shankill Butchers and who has been named by family members of shooting victims is free to walk the streets, despite all the 'Open Evidence', but Martin Corey and hundreds of others (The PSNI Officer put the figure at close to 300 since 2010) are deemed to be a threat by 'Secret Evidence'. If the PSNI Officer says that almost 300 people have been sent to prison, how many of those 300 have been convicted? If over 200 of them have been released, and not convicted, how can you possibly argue that Internment doesn't exist?
They sound like lovely people, good and honest law abiding citizens, so they do, so they do, those rioting members of the Policing Boards..
 

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They sound like lovely people, good and honest law abiding citizens, so they do, so they do, those rioting members of the Policing Boards..

You're the guy who thinks that we should unite with them.

What have we got to offer two scrapping white-trash groups who have so much in common with each other?
 

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You're the guy who thinks that we should unite with them.

What have we got to offer two scrapping white-trash groups who have so much in common with each other?
1932 Address From The Army Council Of The Irish Republican Army To The Men And Women Of The Orange Order, July, 1932

Fellow Countrymen and Women,

It is a long call from the ranks of the Irish Republican Army to the marching throngs that hold the 12th July Celebrations in North East Ulster. Across the space we have sometimes exchanged shots, or missiles or hard words, but never forgetting that on occasions our ancestors have stood shoulder to shoulder. Some day we will again exchange ideas and then the distance, which now separates us, will shorten. For we of the Irish Republican Army believe that inevitably the small farmers and wage-earners in the Six County area will make common cause with those of the rest of Ireland, for the common good of the mass of the people in a Free United Irish Republic. Such a conviction is forming itself in an ever increasing number of minds in North East Ulster.

The Irish Republican Army – within North East Ulster as well as in the rest of Ireland – believe that the mass of the working-farmers and wage-earners must organise behind revolutionary leadership if they are to rescue themselves from a system within they the few prosper and the many are impoverished.

It is our opinion, a conviction driven in on our mind by the facts of life around us, that capitalism and imperialism constitute a system of exploitation and injustice within which the mass of the people can know no freedom.

The burdens of to-day’s bad times are falling with increasing weight on Working Farmers, who must surrender an increasing part of their produce to meet rents, taxes, bank interest, etc, while their incomes diminish The unemployed workers are being torn at with economies in social services – adding daily to the destitute. The wage earners are finding their conditions of employment and standard of living steadily worsening.

We can see no permanent solution of these evils except by the transfer of power over production, distribution and exchange to the mass of the people.

The power to produce what the many require exists; the organisation and its distribution presents no insoluble difficulty. But the vested interests of a privileged minority are across the road and progress is impossible, unless we are prepared to clear away these obstacles.

These interests that deny their rights to the many are those on which the Empire rests. Touch or threaten these privileged interests and the whole force of the Empire is invoked for their protection. Thus it is that we see and say that the freedom of the mass – of the Irish People is impossible without breaking the connection with Imperial Britain and with all the Imperial system connotes.

Do you see any other road to freedom for yourselves and your families?

You must realise that the chief industries on which the former alleged prosperity of North East Ulster rested are gone beyond hope of being revived; that the same thing has occurred in Great Britain; that everywhere the pinch grows tighter on those who are unemployed as a result of this breakdown in the whole structure of capitalism. Can the British people help you while their own workers and industries are struggling desperately to exist and are not succeeding in these days? Where do you see any hope?

Working-farmers and wage-earners of North East Ulster. You surely must see that your future is bound up with the mass of the people in the remainder of Ireland. To preserve yourselves from extinction, you and they must combine and go forward to the attainment of A Free Irish Nation within which life and living will be organised and controlled by you to serve your needs and thus end the present economic and social injustices for ever.

The industrial capacity, and training of you industrial workers, of North East Ulster ensure you a leading influence and place in the economy and life of a Free Irish Nation.

Exploitation Of Religious Prejudices

To prejudice you it is emphasized that we of the Irish Republican Army and the mass of Republicans are mainly Catholic, and that your religious beliefs would not be respected in a free Ireland! It is quite true we are mainly Catholics, but in Southern Ireland the same political and economical interests and voices that tell you we are Catholics, tell the Catholic population of the South that we are Anti-God fanatics, and yearning for an opportunity to make war on the religion to which the majority of us belong!

The fact is we are quite unaware of religious distinctions within our Movement.

We guarantee you, you will guarantee us, and we will both guarantee all full freedom of conscience and religious worship in the Ireland we are to set free.

This is the simple truth, and just now when Imperial interests are attempting to conceal themselves behind the mad fury of religious strife you and we should combine to make certain that no such escape should be provided them.

In the process of exploitation of the wage-earners and small producers, do you not realise how little religion matters to the exploiters? Orangemen and Catholic, Catholic women and yours toil side by side in the factory and mill, all equally victims Those who thus exploit mercilessly your labour and energies, would outside set you at one anothers throats, because it is to their advantage to divide you and lead you into conflict by arousing religious issues and inflaming passions.

Do yon not find yourselves queued shoulder to shoulder outside the Unemployed Exchanges waiting for the ‘Dole’, that crumb which the exploiters throw to the exploited of different religions? In these vital matters your religion or your membership of the Orange Older counts for little, nor does Catholicism to the unemployed and starving Catholics in Southern Ireland.

The fact is that the religious feelings of the masses of both Orangemen and Catholics are played on and exploited by the Imperialists and Capitalists the more surely to enslave them.

The Victory Of The Boyne

You celebrate the victory of the Boyne. This battle was a victory for the alliance of the then Pope; and William of Orange; strange alliance for you to celebrate; strange victory for Catholics to resist! History has been muddled to hide the occasions when your forefathers and ours made common cause, and passions are stirred to manufacture antagonisms. If William of Orange and His Holiness could achieve an alliance, there is hope that “No Surrender” may come up from a throng, which also roars “Up The Republic”.

Your stock was the founders and inspiration, the North East Ulster the cradle, of the modern Revolutionary Movement for National Independence and Economic Freedom. Your illustrious ancestors and co-religionists, the United Irishmen, by their gallant struggle in 1798 set aflame the ideals of Republicanism which never since have been extinguished. We ask that you should join us to achieve their ideals — National Freedom and religious toleration.

It was John Mitchel, a Newry man of your stock, who addressed these words to your forefathers: “In fact religious hatred has been kept alive in Ireland longer than anywhere else in Christendom. Just for the simple reason that Irish landlords and British statesmen found their own account in it, and so soon as Irish landlordism and British domination are finally rooted out of the country it will be heard of no longer in Ireland any more than it is in France or Belgium, now.”

Fraternally, Your Fellow countrymen,

The Army Council,

On Behalf of the Irish Republican Army

What more needs to be said?
 
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1932 Address From The Army Council of the Irish Republican Army To The Men And Women Of The Orange Order, July, 1932

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Fraternally, Your Fellow countrymen,

The Army Council,

On Behalf of the Irish Republican Army

What more needs to be said?

That's very interesting, I'd never seen it. But sent on behalf of a few hundred members who had tried everything else and failed.

Even the dublin and belfast governments were "on non-speaks" until the 1960s, mostly because of collins' failed northern offensive in 1922.

And even if the orange order had more members than the Ira, it is harking back to 1690 and 1798, not looking forward. And that is what we all need, north and south, if unity happened, what would actually happen to ordinary families on the ground.

And that is why, like no-deal brexit, it has been too tricky for any of us to face up to replacing the £10,000,000,000-odd that britain pays annually. If the money stops, or is reduced, the reality is that the poor of NI will have to move out, not the farmers and property owners.
 

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Do you really believe that was anything other than the ruling classes keeping up appearances?
No, I think our claim on the north in 1937 didn't help. And the 1949 uk support for a "unionist veto" didn't help. Then the EEC/EU locked borders, as the catalunyans can tell you.

Unity could work, but not on the basis of people marching around in uniform with flags and bands. That is schoolyard stuff.
 

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Picked off one-by-one..





Gerry McGeough Exposing the OTR Cover-Up

First of all, Hello, John! How are you? It's a delightful coincidence that today, March the 8th, actually marks the seventh anniversary of my arrest in 2007 as I left the Count Centre in Omagh Co. Tyrone having stood as an independent candidate in that election – a Republican candidate - and among the many ironies involved was that they said when they arrested me ... when asked why they didn't arrest me sooner...like over the previous number of years when I lived in Tyrone ... they said they couldn't find me! Even though I was probably the most high-profile candidate in that particular election itself.

Now bear in mind most of the time I spent there was during a dirty protest and as you know I have seven stents in my heart. I had to undergo heart operations while in prison and return to a wing where excrement was smeared all over the cells. Where urine/faeces mixes were laying in puddles all around the wings.

I honestly believed these people hoped that I would die in there. But thanks be to God we survived it.

And lo and behold all their lies and corruption is now being exposed.

And I think this is really at the heart of the whole thing: the cover-up that has been going on.

At any given time during that whole nightmare which my family and I went through the Sinn Féin leadership could have put an end to it.

They easily could have done it.

We had asked for Gerry Kelly to come into court during the various hearings and had he done so - within five minutes the case would have collapsed - had he done what he eventually did in the Downey case in London a few weeks ago.

So they effectively sacrificed me. I became a political sacrifice in the interest of secret deals.
Did this scumbag really complain about him smearing his own crap on the walls.
Lock them up and throw away the key.
 

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No, I think our claim on the north in 1937 didn't help. And the 1949 uk support for a "unionist veto" didn't help. Then the EEC/EU locked borders, as the catalunyans can tell you.

Unity could work, but not on the basis of people marching around in uniform with flags and bands. That is schoolyard stuff.
Hey don't knock our traditions and culture just because you don't like it.
But it's a good job that in reality you won't have to worry about a United Ireland.
 

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So Ratsarse doesn't think the Hunger strike "H block rally" were sectarian murderers, hardly a surprise as he didn't think the Enniskillen bombing or Shankill bombing were sectarian murders either.
In fact he didn't think the IRA were involved in sectarian murders at all.
Doggie do you think that underneath raetsel is as tribalist as Talk Back?
 

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Re Topic...

The stabbings happened as large crowds gathered to watch the bonfire, which was set alight late on Thursday night to mark the anniversary of the introduction of the controversial policy of internment without trial of suspected republicans in 1971.


Police had earlier abandoned an operation to remove the structure before it was lit amid violent clashes that saw three officers injured.


On Saturday a police officer told the court that John Paul McMahon (39) was attacked in the early hours of Friday at the illegal bonfire in an incident allegedly linked to a year-old dispute between him and other men. He suffered non-life-threatening stab wounds to his arm and hip.


 

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Shacking stuff...

An Ambulance Service spokesman confirmed that they were called to the scene at 8:45pm and treated a man for injuries from a crossbow and stab wounds.

In a separate incident, an 18-year-old man was attacked in the New Lodge area and is now in a critical condition in hospital after being stabbed in the back.

Another male, who is 39 years old, also sustained a stab wounds to his arm and hip. He is also in hospital receiving treatment however his injuries are not thought to be life threatening at present.

Rioting broke out in the New Lodge on Thursday when a number of men refused to remove themselves from the summit of an anti-internment bonfire.

Residents were then warned by the Housing Executive on Thursday night to leave their homes after the police decided to retreat from a confrontation in the mainly republican area

 


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