Boycotting Israel: a moral question. (Second Thread)


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Isn't it ironic, that Corbyn's labour party is accused, rightfully so, of having deeply rooted antisemitism, and that so many Jewish members have waken up, and started thinking their future in that party. Except, of course, those with Jewish roots, who want their jewishness to be used as legitimization ground for Corbyn's antisemitism. That's the same in other parts of the world. Jews who are disconnected from their roots want to use their jewishness for anti-zionist purposes.

One day they'll wake up, and they'll see that the left has forsaken them, and that the right hates them. The only place they'll have then, is Israel. And that day is not far away!

The Corbynites, the leftistics who are the new nazis of today, justify the worst antisemites, the worst holocaust deniers, and don't allow Jews to connect to the European right, claiming that the right represents nazi agenda.

As for the allegations against NGO Monitor, they are worthless. NGO Monitor makes important information available to everyone.

The only problem chara toney has, really, and that's obvious, is that NGO Monitor exposes the shame of EU countries that support anti-zionist organisations and, of course, pay for convicted terrorists.
So it's the self hating jews excuse again from Tuam/yanshuf again is it? Would that be anti semitic from him?
Pathetic...but not surprising from a compulsive liar..and far right extremist with zero credibilty.

The new Nazis are the ones the Apartheid state of israel and Netanyahu supports and encourages with vigour and money.
Look at their anti-semitism,and holocaust denial.... but like yours it's ok when it comes from the far right racists.

The Real Reason Netanyahu Gave Cover To Holocaust Deniers – The Forward


The facts are real about NGO monitor....just because you got caught lying about them doesnt change that...but you will expose your far right lunacy in an attempt to do so.
Oh..and they (NGO) are not immune from having terrorists in their ranks....and as for their money...it's funny but not surprising.

NGO Monitor and an allied organization, the Institute for Zionist Strategies, recently sponsored a seminar in the Knesset that pushed for closer government regulation of human rights NGOs that monitor the occupation and their international donors. Nothing was mentioned, of course, about those American evangelicals who — often in the name of an antisemitic, end-of-days agenda — support West Bank settlers who violate Palestinian human rights.
Or about the American Jewish foundations that financially support the ideological settlers’ agenda.
Nor did Steinberg and IZS’s head, Israel Harel, fess up, in the interest of transparency, that when they themselves contribute articles to Web magazines, they gladly accept payment from monies that were provided by the E.U., Ford Foundation, OSI and SIDA — the very donors they condemn.

It’s okay when the donor money goes to right-wingers....and the far right racists.....Why such hypocrisy Tuam?
 
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So it's the self hating jews excuse again from Tuam/yanshuf again is it? Would that be anti semitic from him?
Pathetic...but not surprising from a compulsive liar..and far right extremist with zero credibilty.

The new Nazis are the ones the Apartheid state of israel and Netanyahu supports and encourages with vigour and money.
Look at their anti-semitism,and holocaust denial.... but like yours it's ok when it comes from the far right racists.

The Real Reason Netanyahu Gave Cover To Holocaust Deniers – The Forward


The facts are real about NGO monitor....just because you got caught lying about them doesnt change that...but you will expose your far right lunacy in an attempt to do so.
Oh..and they (NGO) are not immune from having terrorists in their ranks....and as for their money...it's funny but not surprising.

NGO Monitor and an allied organization, the Institute for Zionist Strategies, recently sponsored a seminar in the Knesset that pushed for closer government regulation of human rights NGOs that monitor the occupation and their international donors. Nothing was mentioned, of course, about those American evangelicals who — often in the name of an antisemitic, end-of-days agenda — support West Bank settlers who violate Palestinian human rights.
Or about the American Jewish foundations that financially support the ideological settlers’ agenda.
Nor did Steinberg and IZS’s head, Israel Harel, fess up, in the interest of transparency, that when they themselves contribute articles to Web magazines, they gladly accept payment from monies that were provided by the E.U., Ford Foundation, OSI and SIDA — the very donors they condemn.

It’s okay when the donor money goes to right-wingers....and the far right racists.....Why such hypocrisy Tuam?

and here we go again, a BS post from chara toney.

For years on years that the leftistics on here and world wide support the balestinazis, headed by Arafat - who was a follower of amin el husseini, himself part of the nazi extermination machine against the jews.

Then they switched to abbas, who is a self proclaimed holocaust denier. The balestinian society is full of holocaust supporters, those who say that hitler was right, and should have had the chance to finish his job.

And the leftistics? They just extended their support: it's like when saying that Europe was wrong not to eliminate the Jews in Europe and in the land of Israel, the leftistics jump on that.

The question is why?

The answer is that in every leftistic hides a nazi!

A small comparison would make it clearer - the nazis waned to boycott all jewish businesses. The leftistics want to boycott all jewish businesses too, in the land of israel!

The nazis didn't like the jews defending themselves, and the leftistics, either, in Israel.

The IRA collaborated with teh nazis, and today - the Irish politicians collaborate with hamas and fatah and other terrorist factions, both morally and financially. The irish government gives money to convicted terrorists in jails, who murdered Jews.

There is no much difference between the Irish leftistics and the nazis. That's why these neo-nazis call Israel an abartheid state, so they'd brebare the bublic obinion to a new ethnic cleansing of Jews from Judea and Samaria (and another one in the bre-1967 lines).

The lies of chara toney and his baseless posts are in line with leftistics mindset.

As for NGO Monitor, he doesn't like them because they exposed this past nazis and current nazis connection.

It's understandable, and it's quite obvious, dear chara, but you can't hide all the time behind the left. Your antisemitic views are there for everyone to read!
 

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Great to see further evidence of Tuam/yanshuf and his zero credibility,lies,and racism....not to mention his far right extremism.
At least he admits the lies and hypocrisy of the racist NGO...guess he can't answer why they took money from organisations they condemn.
Just like it's okay for certain far right holocaust denial,and far right anti semitism,israeli government to help terrorists,and invite the israeli equivilent of the KKK and terrorist supporters to join them in government......and israel supporting and arming Neo-Nazis.

But hey...to someone of sound mind and not a compulsive liar like Tuam/yanshuf...that would surely be uncomfortable....but to him it's all good hasbara.
Just like stone throwers deserve to be executed,but not the israeli ones.....those setting up a water supply deserve to have their water cut off and pipes destroyed,but not the illegal israeli settlers doing it.

And his creme de la creme ...Arab rapists to be tried for war crimes,without any evidence....but yes you have guessed it....not the israeli rapists though.
He is clearly not only a liar...but a deranged one.
 

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Lovely,further evidence of the hasbara troll's BullShite.....Admission that Netanyahu is an anti semite and gives cover to holocaust deniers when it suits him...won't hide your compulsive lies Tuam/yanshuf....he doesn't mind being one...or his son.
When you keep getting caught lying for the Apartheid state....there is only one thing for it...scream anti semitism....and hope people forget about your Zero credibility.....and also forget about it when it comes from right wing racists...just like himself.

The constant lies from you go back a long long way....as does your racism....look Tuam/yanshuf,everyone knows where you are coming from...not enough Palestinian land being stolen,not enough Palestinians being killed,not enough far right policies being carried out by Netanyahu,ect,ect...sad but true.

Continuing to lie about the far right NGO monitor and it's funding is further insight into your lunacy....It's okay to be funded by the far right...and organisations that they condemn....no surprise there....as these zionists can't stop lying.
Have you a link to where NGO monitor gets funded by European tax payers?

Still no sign of your post... of the 100 year old colour photo of the Tuam baby being exhumed from the sewage pipe Tuam/yanshuf,.....oh well....maybe it's lost.
 

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Good news. The UN is expected soon to reveal a list of Israeli companies involved in the Occupation. That will help with boycott efforts. This was mentioned last night I think.

During the Holocaust, much of German industry was profiting from the genocide. So this time, lets not let businesses profit from the Occupation of Palestine.
 

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The leftistic circle: The BDSMers publish a list of companies they want boycotted to harm the Israeli economy, and pressure the UN to do the same. The UN published a list it wants boycotted, and the BDSMers boycott them (if they don't need their products), and then the BDSMers publish a list, and then the UN, and so on...

As much as this would hurt the Israeli economy, I'm happy to say that it will hurt harder the so called balestinians, and it's good that the BDSMers don't care.
 

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Good news. The UN is expected soon to reveal a list of Israeli companies involved in the Occupation. That will help with boycott efforts. This was mentioned last night I think.

During the Holocaust, much of German industry was profiting from the genocide. So this time, lets not let businesses profit from the Occupation of Palestine.

Irish people collaborated with the nazis during the war, and after the war Ireland was a safe haven for nazi criminals.

It's not surprising at all to find more leftistic irishmen trying to harm Israeli Jews.

Armed resistance is their euphemism for murder of more jews, and abartheid is a euphemism for judenrein.
 

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Irish people collaborated with the nazis during the war, and after the war Ireland was a safe haven for nazi criminals.

It's not surprising at all to find more leftistic irishmen trying to harm Israeli Jews.

Armed resistance is their euphemism for murder of more jews, and abartheid is a euphemism for judenrein.
70,000 Irish people fought in the Allied armies. Joining the war would have meant reoccupation by the British. We did not collaborate with the Nazis. After the war, the CIA employed Klaus Barbie as an agent.
 

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The IRA collaborated, the Irish taoiseach went to the nazi german embassy to offer his condolences to the German people on the fall of the Fuehrer.

Ireland has been a safe haven for nazi criminals after WWII, there is still in tact, a statue of Russell standing in Dublin.

Needless to remind you that a little more than a 100 years ago Limerick boycotted its jews.

The animosity of Irish leftistics to Jews is not a new thing. Irish leftistics have boycotted Jewish businesses in the past, just like the nazis did, and they do today, just like the nazis.

You can't run away from your nazi past.
 

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Where is the link that you claim European taxpayers fund NGO Monitor..or were you caught lying again Tuam/yanshuf?
 

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Where is the link that you claim European taxpayers fund NGO Monitor..or were you caught lying again Tuam/yanshuf?
Yanshuf said, "NGO Monitor exposes the shame of EU countries that support anti-zionist organisations and, of course, pay for convicted terrorists".

Have you a serious comprehension problem?

He's referring to the likes of this - Palestinian Authority paid terrorists nearly $350 million in 2017 - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post

And this - NGO monitor | The European Union (EU) provides substantial funding to highly politicized NGOs active in the Arab-Israeli conflict through various funding mechanisms...

Etc...

In fact I started up a thread only a short while back on one aspect of Ireland's culpability in this:

Thread: Ireland ups funding to UNRWA by €2m to €9m per year

Yeah, that UNRWA...
 

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Lol! Another compulsive liar in roc.....Guess Tuam/yanshuf's balls won't lick themselves...but seeing as you are making an attempt at licking them for him...can you ask him why he deleted his post where he claimed and said that European taxpayers and far right governments are funding the far right and racist hasbara group NGO Monitor?
Did he mention Chinese sewer pipes and 800 "Tuam" babies being executed but 1 being exhumed to you also?
 

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"... "We lawyers refer to people like that not as witnesses, but as exhibits. He is an exhibit, like a piece of evidence. You hear what he has to say, and then you say to yourself, 'I see now the problem with anti-Zionism.'"

- Mary Robinson, former President of Ireland, and former anti-Zionist herself.
 

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When you are licking his balls a second time.....ask him why he deleted his post....lied about NGO Monitor...Where is the link ....and why he caught you out by claiming Irish children in Chinese sewer pipes and 800 "Tuam" babies being executed but only 1 being exhumed in his 100 year old "Colour" photograph.
Being a compulsive liar for israel is understandable and common...especially with all you useless far right hasbarists....but are you also like him....a deranged compulsive liar?
 

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Hannah Arendt writting during the closing stages of the Zionist terror campaign against the UK State and remember she had been one of the leading German Zionists herself:

" And even if the Jews were to win the war, its end would find the unique possibilities and the unique achievements of Zionism in Palestine destroyed. The land that would come into being would be something quite other than the dream of world Jewry, Zionist and non-Zionist. The ‘victorious’ Jews would live surrounded by an entirely hostile Arab population, secluded into ever-threatened borders, absorbed with physical self-defense to a degree that would submerge all other interests and activities. The growth of a Jewish culture would cease to be the concern of the whole people; social experiments would have to be discarded as impractical luxuries; political thought would center around military strategy….

Under such circumstances… the Palestinian Jews would degenerate into one of those small warrior tribes about whose possibilities and importance history has amply informed us since the days of Sparta."
 

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Yanshuf said, "NGO Monitor exposes the shame of EU countries that support anti-zionist organisations and, of course, pay for convicted terrorists".

Have you a serious comprehension problem?

He's referring to the likes of this - Palestinian Authority paid terrorists nearly $350 million in 2017 - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post

And this - NGO monitor | The European Union (EU) provides substantial funding to highly politicized NGOs active in the Arab-Israeli conflict through various funding mechanisms...

Etc...

In fact I started up a thread only a short while back on one aspect of Ireland's culpability in this:

Thread: Ireland ups funding to UNRWA by €2m to €9m per year

Yeah, that UNRWA...
He's projecting again.

He tends to distort what he reads, if he reads something of that he posts:

Case of Israeli detainees in Gaza kept quiet for months

He understood this report as saying that an Israeli black soldier was kidnapped by Hamas, and that the Israeli authorities don't do anything to bring him back, because he's black!
 

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He's projecting again.

He tends to distort what he reads, if he reads something of that he posts:

Case of Israeli detainees in Gaza kept quiet for months

He understood this report as saying that an Israeli black soldier was kidnapped by Hamas, and that the Israeli authorities don't do anything to bring him back, because he's black!
Well you have Administrative Detention don't you? Your govt holds people including children for years sometimes without trial. Who are you to judge?
 

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Well you have Administrative Detention don't you? Your govt holds people including children for years sometimes without trial. Who are you to judge?
1. other countries have administrative detention too, like the UK, the US, Australia and IRELAND.

2. As someone who's expressed his support to murdering Jews in Judea and Samaria, you have no moral ground to criticise me.

3. You haven't answered yet - are you taking back your admiration to Hamas leaders?
 

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1. other countries have administrative detention too, like the UK, the US, Australia and IRELAND.

2. As someone who's expressed his support to murdering Jews in Judea and Samaria, you have no moral ground to criticise me.

3. You haven't answered yet - are you taking back your admiration to Hamas leaders?
Other countries only use it in restricted circumstances, specifically detention for immigration reasons. You use it for people writing poems like Dareen Tatour.
 

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Other countries only use it in restricted circumstances, specifically detention for immigration reasons. You use it for people writing poems like Dareen Tatour.
Dareen Tatour was inciting to violence. As far as I know, she wasn't in an administrative detention, but rather a home detention, before her trial. She was in jail, after a trial for incitement to terrorism. If she had known better, she would have stayed in jail, and get Irish taxpayer's money. That's something you do well - support terrorists.
 
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