Brendan Howlin resigns as Labour leader - end of dreams of an SF-led govt?

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Nice try ha. New nick name for ya - Heap Anything But Piss.

Adios FFG fookers like yourself. When will you ever learn re FFG indefensible mistakes re their phoney wars.
Huh?
 


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Labour were a participant in the obstruction of the Judicial Appointments Bill, which (before it was watered down after a fillibuster in the Seanad) would have reduced political cronyism in the judiciary by requiring appointments to be of persons recommended by an independent commission. In this respect, they were vulnerable to perceptions the party was protecting a wealthy, powerful vested interest group. Champagne Socialism.
Never came up once on the doors, in any context.
 

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I bet the lenient sentences by the judiciary came up on the doors.
That has nothing to do with your cliched nonsense about vested interests and cronyism.
 

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That has nothing to do with your cliched nonsense about vested interests and cronyism.
Its linked to group-think of the D4 Establishment and political cronies (including in some cases forrmer politicians) who end up on the bench and then let hardened criminals, some of whom have committed serious physical and/or sexual assaults, out on the streets again.
 
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I note that a different poster, a particularly nasty individual, is still flogging another of his ridiculous predictions, this time that Howlin will try to be Labour's presidential candidate next time. What a clown.
We are not going to have a Leprechaun every time. Thats it, ya let one Leprechaun in and every Leprechaun thinks he can be President. I know there's a Pot of Gold but its getting ridiculous.
 

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Labour having to choose from the current crop of TD for their leader will mean they remain politically irrelevant. They mostly come across as the least socialist bunch of socialists I've ever seen.
I too think the entire thing is irrelevant.
 

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We are not going to have a Leprechaun every time. Thats it, ya let one Leprechaun in and every Leprechaun thinks he can be President. I know there's a Pot of Gold but its getting ridiculous.
Is that the best you can do attack the man because of his height. Rather than his politics. Would you do the same thing if he had one leg, would you mock that.

One would think from this that Howlin was the worst politician ever, he wasn’t, he did what he thought best and he’s leader of a very small party without much power.
 

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Care to outline any actual logic to that, beyond you not liking him?
Howlin is most remembered for the zeal and passion he displayed imposing swinging austerity on the very people who voted for him and he was supposed to protect.

I've heard him speak a few times in the past 5 years and it's always the same speech - how he had no choice, how we were all blissfully unaware of the perils he alone protected us from the "ravages" of the free markets.

He's never admitted to making a mistake, to being wrong - the narrative is always that we didn't appreciate how hard he worked for us.

He has become a joke among his own party and the electorate, but he clung on to his last position of imagined power because like Napoleon in exile he wanted to refight the old battles in his head and refight the 2011 GE campaign.

Add to that his massive lack of judgement as leader - Bacik as Director of Elections???? - a lady who can't get herself elected? WTF?

So, an alienated leader, unpopular with the electorate and unable to select an effective director of elections...that's my logic - I hope it passes your high standards.
 
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Is that the best you can do attack the man because of his height. Rather than his politics. Would you do the same thing if he had one leg, would you mock that.

One would think from this that Howlin was the worst politician ever, he wasn’t, he did what he thought best and he’s leader of a very small party without much power.
He’s small alright but he is also a horrible little bar-steward.

He has been a great wee capitalist in all the money he has gathered for himself.

He is an Irish Tory.
 

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Not really.
It's the end of the dream that Brendan Howlin can be a successful Labour leader.
 

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Ivana Bacik would not get elected in her own house. Has she ever won an election in her life.

Howlin was not a socialist. Was he not part of the rainbow Gov back in 1996 that gave pensioners an increase of 7 cent a week.
 

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PBP would argue with themselves so much they'd miss every cabinet meeting.

Plus they fundamentally don't agree with the concept of parliament.
I read somewhere this morning that a party called solidarity issued a statement that they did not have discussions with sf ( or some such)

it transpires that solidarity is the same solidarity of solidarity/people befor profit.

it has one td - mick Barry.

god almighty the peoples front of Judaea vs the judean peoples front!
 

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Howlin is most remembered for the zeal and passion he displayed imposing swinging austerity on the very people who voted for him and he was supposed to protect.

I've heard him speak a few times in the past 5 years and it's always the same speech - how he had no choice, how we were all blissfully unaware of the perils he alone protected us from the "ravages" of the free markets.

He's never admitted to making a mistake, to being wrong - the narrative is always that we didn't appreciate how hard he worked for us.

He has become a joke among his own party and the electorate, but he clung on to his last position of imagined power because like Napoleon in exile he wanted to refight the old battles in his head and refight the 2011 GE campaign.

Add to that his massive lack of judgement as leader - Bacik as Director of Elections???? - a lady who can't get herself elected? WTF?
He did not bankrupt the country.

He had to deal with the consequences however.

That he did reasonably well.

The alternative we see in Greece.
 

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It's looks like FFG with GP. it gives SF time to solidify their base and rebuild it further by fielding more candidates. FFG is like two parties stick their knife to each other. Its either FF or FG to lose their relevance.

FF destroyed PD and GP(2011)

FG destroyed LAB.

FFG via S and c agreements both lost their seats.


FFG with GP????
 


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