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BREXIT - A Miscarriage of Democracy

Pabilito

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The cataclysmic BREXIT referendum was evidently a miscarriage of democracy.. uniquely characterised by blatant lies, fear, confusion, populism, ignorance and a fascist fomenting of nationalism, racism and xenophobia.

It seems now that many voters were unaware of what exactly they were voting for or about while many appear to have regrets, a second referendum may be on the cards ..

There’s nothing wrong with a second referendum or changing your mind, in fact it can be a sign of maturity and we Irish have experience of this whereas our British cousin’s lack our more mature experience when it comes to referendums..

The Brexit vote appears to have been a miscarriage of democracy for which the only sensible solution may be a rerun.. to be sure to be sure as we say ..
 


dresden8

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Lolz pabz lolz.

Voting is a miscarriage of democracy.

Newspeak indeed.
 

Irish-Rationalist

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The cataclysmic BREXIT referendum was evidently a miscarriage of democracy.. uniquely characterised by blatant lies, fear, confusion, populism, ignorance and a fascist fomenting of nationalism, racism and xenophobia.
Or you could abandon the PC line and say that Brexit is the democratic mandate of the people of the UK who are sick of watching their towns and cities culturally transmogrified via EU open door immigration, and their public services put under unprecedented strain. You could also add that people got tired of experiencing the lowering of wages for indigenous workers, and listening to pillock's like yourself brand them as racists and xenophobes because they desired liberation from a faceless bureaucratic elite in Brussels effectively colonising their country, and decided to democratically reclaim it.

You people can cry and moan all you like. The UK is out of the EU, because that is how democracy works. Now tell me how much of a racist I am.
 

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great parenting by Leftists




wtf?

 

Dubstudent

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The majority of the British public don't want a second referendum. The majority of British politicians don't want a second referendum. The majority of British people/politicians respect democracy.

Yet we have the loony fringe and fantasists trying to undermine the democratic decision taken by the British people.
 

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The people have voted...the bastards.
 

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I think that there were blatant lies from the Leave people. Also Cameron was pathetic. He did not cogently argue the case for Remain. Instead he'd say things like "There will be world war 3 if the uk leaves" What a blithering idiot not just for his stupid statements but for calling the referendum in the first place.
 

Pabilito

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The majority of the British public don't want a second referendum. The majority of British politicians don't want a second referendum. The majority of British people/politicians respect democracy.

Yet we have the loony fringe and fantasists trying to undermine the democratic decision taken by the British people.
Actually they do.. you appear to aligned with the elderly
 

Dubstudent

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I think that there were blatant lies from the Leave people. Also Cameron was pathetic. He did not cogently argue the case for Remain. Instead he'd say things like "There will be world war 3 if the uk leaves" What a blithering idiot not just for his stupid statements but for calling the referendum in the first place.
Remain threw the kitchen sink at it and still failed miserably.

They had the vast majority of the mainstream media and British political establishment on their side. Along with powerful multinationals, financiers, NATO, Barack Obama etc.

They still lost.

The plebs aren't as easy to control as they once were it would seem.
 

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The cataclysmic BREXIT referendum was evidently a miscarriage of democracy.. uniquely characterised by blatant lies, fear, confusion, populism, ignorance and a fascist fomenting of nationalism, racism and xenophobia.

It seems now that many voters were unaware of what exactly they were voting for or about while many appear to have regrets, a second referendum may be on the cards ..

There’s nothing wrong with a second referendum or changing your mind, in fact it can be a sign of maturity and we Irish have experience of this whereas our British cousin’s lack our more mature experience when it comes to referendums..

The Brexit vote appears to have been a miscarriage of democracy for which the only sensible solution may be a rerun.. to be sure to be sure as we say ..
Mmmm 'To be sure, to be sure', as 'we' say?

Sure?
 
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Dame_Enda

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So let me get this straight.

The voters with 83% turnout out (the over 65s) dont know what they were voting on. But the voters who abstained 73% did.

Whatever

And even if it were nationalism, or what you call "xenophobia", the result is still valid.

As the Irish Supreme Court ruled in 1995 when striking down the challenge to the Divorce Referendum, it is not their job to look inside the minds for the reasons for the peoples decision.

We know from experience in this country that the ones who stay at home are usually the ones who dont have the information. This campaign has been going on for many months so noone really has an excuse in the internet age for claiming lack of information.
 

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Actually they do.. you appear to aligned with the elderly
Polls have shown that the majority of British people don't want a second referendum. Most of the British politicians that matter have accepted the result and said there would be no rerun.

A march through London with a píss poor attendance isn't going to change it. You don't get to undermine democracy when it doesn't go your way. This is Britain we're talking about. Not some two bob country whose cowardly political class caves to Brussels when their own people vote against the EU's wishes.
 

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The people have voted...the bastards.
But the racist isolationists, and those who voted to leave just to teach their politicians a lesson(but didn't really mean it) won, so they need a do over, for democracies sake, of course.
 

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I think the referendum was a clear violation of the safe Space of a lot of people , other people just don't understand how confusing and traumatic it is to a lot of the PC leftie crowd when they realise not everyone is going to agree with them all the time , by voting the opposite way to them it is clearly an assault on their rights.

This referendum result should be declared null an void as it upsetting a lot of right on trendy people.
 

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Bridges have been burned. The EU wants rid of the UK. There's no going back.
 

Pabilito

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Polls have shown that the majority of British people don't want a second referendum. Most of the British politicians that matter have accepted the result and said there would be no rerun.

A march through London with a píss poor attendance isn't going to change it. You don't get to undermine democracy when it doesn't go your way. This is Britain we're talking about. Not some two bob country whose cowardly political class caves to Brussels when their own people vote against the EU's wishes.
We’re talking about two bob sterling Brittan,.. by the way did you manage to get a job yet or are you still masquerading as a student?
 

Dubstudent

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I think that there were blatant lies from the Leave people. Also Cameron was pathetic. He did not cogently argue the case for Remain. Instead he'd say things like "There will be world war 3 if the uk leaves" What a blithering idiot not just for his stupid statements but for calling the referendum in the first place.
The Remain campaign was rubbish but not necessarily for the reasons you suggest. Look it basically confirmed how out of touch the elite and their lapdogs are with the majority of the British public. Same case in much of Europe.

* The Remainers thought blabbering about ''hate politics'' would get them somewhere

* The Remainers thought people care more about money than their actual society

* Some Remainers thought it would be a good idea to link the Leave campaign to the brutal murder of Jo Cox

* Some Remainers thought it would be a good idea for a pack of upper class folks to shout abuse on the Thames at ordinary hardworking fishermen campaigning for Leave

They're away with the birds. Completely out of touch to a laughable extent. Many of us on here have been saying it for years about the cosy ''middle ground'' only to be dismissed. It can't so easily be dismissed now.

Anyway it's over now. Back to laughing at the (no longer so) ''mainstream'' licking their wounds and whinging on the television.
 

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The Remain campaign was rubbish but not necessarily for the reasons you suggest. Look it basically confirmed how out of touch the elite and their lapdogs are with the majority of the British public. Same case in much of Europe.

* The Remainers thought blabbering about ''hate politics'' would get them somewhere

* The Remainers thought people care more about money than their actual society

* Some Remainers thought it would be a good idea to link the Leave campaign to the brutal murder of Jo Cox

* Some Remainers thought it would be a good idea for a pack of upper class folks to shout abuse on the Thames at ordinary hardworking fishermen campaigning for Leave

They're away with the birds. Completely out of touch to a laughable extent. Many of us on here have been saying it for years about the cosy ''middle ground'' only to be dismissed. It can't so easily be dismissed now.

Anyway it's over now. Back to laughing at the (no longer so) ''mainstream'' licking their wounds and whinging on the television.
Yes and another thing, this nonsense that people voted out of misplaced fear
Fear that there wages would go down
Fear that services were stretched
Fear for housing etc
These were not fears, these were reality for a lot if people
They voted not because of their fears, they voted because there fears have been confirmed fir the last 10 years
 

Dame_Enda

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I dont see why Brits should take advice from celebrity tax dodgers just because we do!
 

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