Brexit:- Are the gloves off?

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Well it seems the logical conclusion,is that Eire's stance will lead to our own ' Eirexit' , as I predicted a while back. Noonan and co cannot win this fight and remain in the EEC.
Simples. Welcome to The Republic of Apple , mo'fos.
 
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Apple would never move its EU HQ to a place outside the EU. This is a sign of panic in the UK, nothing more.
 

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Apple would never move its EU HQ to a place outside the EU. This is a sign of panic in the UK, nothing more.
Panic?
Its a sign of assertiveness and enterprise best seen when a country regains it sovereignty.
The same way Eastern Europe flourished after the USSR collapsed.
Britain has nothing to panic about. Just like they called it right in keeping the sterling, they will soon be proved right in leaving the EU.
It's on the cusp of a Boom.
 

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Panic?
Its a sign of assertiveness and enterprise best seen when a country regains it sovereignty.
The same way Eastern Europe flourished after the USSR collapsed.
Britain has nothing to panic about. Just like they called it right in keeping the sterling, they will soon be proved right in leaving the EU.
It's on the cusp of a Boom.
There will be a boom of companies moving their HQs out of the UK if the EU cuts them out of the single market. And making foolish threats to become Europes bad boy on tax will give the EU side all the cover they need to eject them.

We should thank the UK for taking some heat off us with this Trump level gaff.
 

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There will be a boom of companies moving their HQs out of the UK if the EU cuts them out of the single market. And making foolish threats to become Europes bad boy on tax will give the EU side all the cover they need to eject them.

We should thank the UK for taking some heat off us with this Trump level gaff.
The referendum is over.
You can drop the scare stories now.
 

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There will be a boom of companies moving their HQs out of the UK if the EU cuts them out of the single market. And making foolish threats to become Europes bad boy on tax will give the EU side all the cover they need to eject them.

We should thank the UK for taking some heat off us with this Trump level gaff.
The UK has a bit over 12% of the EU population and comprises more than 17% of the EU GDP. Any multinational ignoring them would be foolish.
 

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Well it seems the logical conclusion,is that Eire's stance will lead to our own ' Eirexit' , as I predicted a while back. Noonan and co cannot win this fight and remain in the EEC.
Simples. Welcome to The Republic of Apple , mo'fos.
This is a fight between the EU and tax-dodging corporations. It's not one the UK can win, inside or outside the EU. CCTB will ensure that. And if Brexiteers insist on off-shoring, an unattractive trade treaty with the EU will sink the UK completely, and reduce it to laundering a diminishing amount of hot money.

PS: there will be no 'Eirexit'.
 
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There will be a boom of companies moving their HQs out of the UK if the EU cuts them out of the single market. And making foolish threats to become Europes bad boy on tax will give the EU side all the cover they need to eject them.

We should thank the UK for taking some heat off us with this Trump level gaff.
Brexit is the biggest act of massive suicide since Jim Jones & the Koolaid.
it's economic suicide but still suicide.

The UK has more gold medalist cyclists than trade negotiators.
 

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Why would aapl move their EU headquarters out of the EU? (They might move it out of Ireland though)
 

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Panic?
Its a sign of assertiveness and enterprise best seen when a country regains it sovereignty.
The same way Eastern Europe flourished after the USSR collapsed.
With EU money. And now they're all in the EU.

Do you ever stop and think about what you're typing?
 

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They said they were open for business
I don't know what did people expect the British to say? They were closed? No thanks? Actually we are loaded so you're grand?
 

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The Brit's just expressed in interest in swiping apple from us as a benefit of Brexit. So, are the gloves off now and can we stop pussyfooting around not wishing to offend Britain by looking to see what we can gain out of brexit

Apple tax: Downing Street says tech giant 'welcome' to come to UK after EU orders Ireland to claw back £11bn
http://http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/08/30/apple-ordered-to-pay-11bn-after-european-union-tax-investigation/
The British are as bad if not worse than us for facilitating tax avoidance with their Patent Box arrangement and with their recent pathetic tax settlement with Google. London is tax scammer central. If the British want to take their gloves off then let them go ahead...the EU isn't afraid of MNCs and it is not afraid of BREXIT UK.
 

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Why would aapl move their EU headquarters out of the EU? (They might move it out of Ireland though)
Why on earth would they do that (ie leave a low tax economy, English speaking society with a supportive government and good airlinks). Where would they go?
 

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Panic?
Its a sign of assertiveness and enterprise best seen when a country regains it sovereignty. [1]
The same way Eastern Europe flourished after the USSR collapsed. [2]
Britain has nothing to panic about. Just like they called it right in keeping the sterling, [3] they will soon be proved right in leaving the EU. [4]
It's on the cusp of a Boom.
[1] Insignificance in international affairs was never a good sign for "assertiveness".
[2] An absolutely farcical comparison.
[3] For what it's worth (not very much), as I type, sterling is at $1.31 (just above its lowest post-Brexit of $1.3064), while €/£ is 0.8499 (as opposed to 0.8526 at nadir). Not looking so good after two months, huh? Yes, that'll deter imports, and make UK exports a bit squeakier; but it will be paid for in higher retail prices all round — it's the rich what gets the pleasure, it's the rest must take the strain.
[4] So, what's this week's lottery numbers, Mystic Meg?
[5] Well, that's the narrative for devoted followers of (e.g.) the Daily Express. Readers of the Financial Times get a different story:
  • Brexit: A risky experiment for science (Comment, 23rd August);
  • Brexit costs will be felt soon enough (Comment by Rupert Pennant-Rea, 24th August);
  • Economists warn on post-Brexit vote surveys (28th August) ...
Add to which the awkward divergence of opinion in The Times and The Sunday Times, where the Murdochian diktat applies to "news" pages, and grim realities intrude in the financial and business sections.

On which, famously:
[video=youtube;DGscoaUWW2M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M[/video]​
 

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The Brit's just expressed in interest in swiping apple from us as a benefit of Brexit. So, are the gloves off now and can we stop pussyfooting around not wishing to offend Britain by looking to see what we can gain out of brexit

Apple tax: Downing Street says tech giant 'welcome' to come to UK after EU orders Ireland to claw back £11bn
http://http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/08/30/apple-ordered-to-pay-11bn-after-european-union-tax-investigation/
Ireland is between a rock and a hard place regardless...

Our best interests would be a deal which is good for both the UK and for the EU.

Such a deal is not going to happen however.

So Ireland needs to adopt a purely selfish attitude now and fight in our own interests and for our own interests alone... and 'establishment' Ireland needs to quit being so feckin' ingratiating and subservient to everyone...

Standing up to the EC is probably a good move in this respect (even if it on behalf of feckin' Apple)... although they should have stood up for Ireland back in 2008 and since then too.

Chances are the EU is f***ed 'going forward' anyway... and the people of the UK have adopted an 'I'm alright Jack f*** you' attitude in general... so with all the niceties disappearing fast Ireland simply needs to look after Ireland.
 

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The EU has handed Ireland inc 2 free years global advertising for our low tax brand. This story will run and run and the message multinationals will hear is "come to Ireland and well fight for your bottom line in Europe" - no other EU state gets that.
 

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The EU has handed Ireland inc 2 free years global advertising for our low tax brand. This story will run and run and the message multinationals will hear is "come to Ireland and well fight for your bottom line in Europe" - no other EU state gets that.
Ireland should be a nation rather than a brand. We should be cooperating with other European nations to make the MNCs pay a fair amount towards general costs rather than being their sidekicks.
 

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Ireland should be a nation rather than a brand. We should be cooperating with other European nations to make the MNCs pay a fair amount towards general costs rather than being their sidekicks.
Will the Germans cooperate when all the MNC'S bugger off to the core and leave us on the wind swept periphery? Will they fupp.
 

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This is a fight between the EU and tax-dodging corporations. It's not one the UK can win, inside or outside the EU. CCTB will ensure that. And if Brexiteers insist on off-shoring, an unattractive trade treaty with the EU will sink the UK completely, and reduce it to laundering a diminishing amount of hot money.

PS: there will be no 'Eirexit'.
It's really a fight between, mainly, US MNCs and anywhere that wants to tax them.
 


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