BREXIT difficulties = Ireland's opportumity

nonpolitic

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It would appear as if some large manufacturers/companies are threatening to pull out of Britain if Brexit goes ahead, BMW, Airbus to name just two. If this were to happen, should Ireland not be positioning itself to pick up any possible benefits of proposed re-location

Now I realise that there are risks in taking this approach, such as, becoming more heavily reliant of foreign investment, no limk to the European mainland and a lack of decent infrastructure. But, are we not missing an opportunity here if we don't even try to attract new business.

There has been some talk lately about where we should look at spending next year's €800 million remaining fiscal space, well, how about on some major infrastructure projects which are needed anyway. This is ibnvestment that won't go to waste.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
 


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Strengthening links to mainland europe via the ports is essential. Ferry routes for both passengers and freight to France exist. Santander is on the way. Then we need Zeebrugge and Rotterdam. Develop ports away from Dublin for this.
 

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It would appear as if some large manufacturers/companies are threatening to pull out of Britain if Brexit goes ahead, BMW, Airbus to name just two. If this were to happen, should Ireland not be positioning itself to pick up any possible benefits of proposed re-location

Now I realise that there are risks in taking this approach, such as, becoming more heavily reliant of foreign investment, no limk to the European mainland and a lack of decent infrastructure. But, are we not missing an opportunity here if we don't even try to attract new business.

There has been some talk lately about where we should look at spending next year's €800 million remaining fiscal space, well, how about on some major infrastructure projects which are needed anyway. This is ibnvestment that won't go to waste.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
It would be nice if we were in a position to take full advantage of the undoubted opportunities Brexit will throw up - although heavy industry and things like car manufacturing probably wouldn't make sense... but plenty of services and light industry perhaps...

Sadly however Ireland is not equipped to take full advantage of such opportunities.

We can't even house our own.
 

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It would be nice if we were in a position to take full advantage of the undoubted opportunities Brexit will throw up - although heavy industry and things like car manufacturing probably wouldn't make sense... but plenty of services and light industry perhaps...

Sadly however Ireland is not equipped to take full advantage of such opportunities.

We can't even house our own.
This is a major issue; we simply don't have the capacity to take in any number of new workers, do we?
 

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Heavy manufacturing, of cars say would be a nice boost for say the midlands. However the bulky nature of the product + Ireland's remote location will make it a hard sell.
 

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Heavy manufacturing, of cars say would be a nice boost for say the midlands. However the bulky nature of the product + Ireland's remote location will make it a hard sell.
How is Ireland more remote than Sunderland?

Jesus, you lot are a cheerful bunch
 

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Heavy manufacturing, of cars say would be a nice boost for say the midlands. However the bulky nature of the product + Ireland's remote location will make it a hard sell.
Agreed if we're talking about final assembly which is better to take place closer to big markets - but industrial, aviation and automotive supply chains are based on sub-assemblies and specialised parts production in various locations flowing into the final assembly plants.

The high end stuff in these sectors could be shipped economically via airfreight, negating our downsides of long seafreight lead times and port capacity issues.
 

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was there some bizarre plan to build a little China somewhere down da bog , as it obviously never happened could it be reengineered as little britain
 

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It would appear as if some large manufacturers/companies are threatening to pull out of Britain if Brexit goes ahead, BMW, Airbus to name just two. If this were to happen, should Ireland not be positioning itself to pick up any possible benefits of proposed re-location

Now I realise that there are risks in taking this approach, such as, becoming more heavily reliant of foreign investment, no limk to the European mainland and a lack of decent infrastructure. But, are we not missing an opportunity here if we don't even try to attract new business.

There has been some talk lately about where we should look at spending next year's €800 million remaining fiscal space, well, how about on some major infrastructure projects which are needed anyway. This is ibnvestment that won't go to waste.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
It would be an excellent opportunity to develop the South and South East as the nearest point to Europe.
Also build some nice things on the border to act as a magnet for unification
 

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Radio programme this morning saying the low unemployment rate was a problem.

No spare labour as there was strong jobs growth in recent years.

Unemployment rate fell from 16% in early 2012 to near 6% by end 2017.

Down further since and that is being depicted as a problem in our media!

Maybe the whole thing will blow up as in 2010!

Hope not.
 

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Heavy manufacturing, of cars say would be a nice boost for say the midlands. However the bulky nature of the product + Ireland's remote location will make it a hard sell.
Shannon would be ideal for Airbus.

This is how the wings are moved now...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Beluga



There's plenty of room for expansion in the limerick region and a good history of aircraft engineering and I'm sure we could accommodate some Welsh refugees.

God knows Munster rugby needs some help right now
 

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was there some bizarre plan to build a little China somewhere down da bog , as it obviously never happened could it be reengineered as little britain
We already have.
It's called south county Dublin
 

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It would be an excellent opportunity to develop the South and South East as the nearest point to Europe.
Also build some nice things on the border to act as a magnet for unification
Yeah, if the money for the Port Tunnel in Dublin was spent on Rosslare and rail connections, it would have a huge impact. Not only on the region (which is traditionally an unemployment blackspot), but on the whole country in terms of diversification of routes/supply.

Heavy manufacturing could then be set up fairly easily if there was an opportunity later.
 

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Be careful what you wish for. Places that have enjoyed great economic success in the past : Detroit, Burnley, blackburn, Bradford, London, Glasgow, Belfast,

all of them turned into sh1tholes over time.
 

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More fúcking taxpayers' money. Yeah, brilliant idea.


Because that is the way Airbus works. You know that right? We wold have to stump up a good few billion in non-recourse development loans and in return get some business.


That didn't actually work that well for the UK, who is down the tube billions following the massive right off loss on the A380 program.
 

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This is a major issue; we simply don't have the capacity to take in any number of new workers, do we?
In Dublin yes but take Limerick for example as a place with loads of capacity for industrial development. As it stand JLR set up a research centre in Shannon for its electric car development.

Then in the instance of reunification Belfast has great potential with loads of commercial and residential capacity for expansion. That would keep working class unionists happy too.

Waterford is another potential host for hosting. The main problem is the planning process where we saw Apple pull their Athenry facility. That is the great obstacle and part of the housing shortage we currently have in Dublin.

Edit to add: I see others have weighed in with the same points.

Having bypassed the industrial revolution did spare us the post industrial decline that blights so much of England but then that was as much London selling off England after the Empire was gone. Germany, France and north Italy are still engineering leaders so there is a way of managing industrial economies.
 
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