Brexit poker: whose bluff will be called?

SideysGhost

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It's hilarious on these threads watching the sweaty breathey desperate yearning of our local binheads for Brexit to somehow result in Ireland rejoining the UK :lol: :lol: :lol:
 


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Because part of Ireland is still in the UK and its fate is inextricably entwined with the rest of Ireland. Besides, they've only got one fécking land border so you'd think what happens to it would have formed part of the discussion in a referendum where so much of it was it was about controlling their borders.
Yer wasting yer time trying to explain reality to that forest eejit. This is the total balloon that years ago insisted the Republic should switch do driving on the right to be more European, and flat-out refused to even consider the utter carnage that would result on the border. Insisted that basically nobody crosses the border each day so how would it be a problem :lol:

Just another vacuous uninformed p.ie mouth-breathing tosspot.
 

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It's hilarious on these threads watching the sweaty breathey desperate yearning of our local binheads for Brexit to somehow result in Ireland rejoining the UK :lol: :lol: :lol:
But we can, can't we? Please Nurse, pretty please.
 

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https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-playing-brexit-whack-a-mole-as-ireland-throws-a-spanner-in-the-works-11131098

"For the first time in the seven or eight century relationship between Britain and Ireland, the Irish exercise power over its larger neighbour."

Let's hope Leo Varadkar (he of the poppy and Love Actually) doesn't blow this opportunity; one that often only falls to a country following a war or such like. Ireland has been gifted an historic opportunity to gain advantage over our neighbour. It has fallen into the lap of the Irish govt, akin to winning the lottery.
England's difficulty should be Ireland's opportunity, all nonsense about England being a friend of Ireland put to one side.
The Irish govt should go for the jugular.
 

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As the Irish PM told me: "We're negotiating with the strength of 27 states, 26 member states behind us, 400 million people. We're in a very strong position here."
Will he follow through? Not to punish GB, but get a great deal for 6.5m people in Ireland (even if 800,000 don’t wish to be Irish or European)
 

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Well we will just have to make do with Nissans Land Rovers , Hondas Bentleys, etc
only the top tory brexiteers will be able to afford them marques, the plebs will have to make do with public transport
 

seabhac siulach

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Will he follow through? Not to punish GB, but get a great deal for 6.5m people in Ireland (even if 800,000 don’t wish to be Irish or European)
Stupidity on the level of Brexit deserves to be punished. The English elite did not consider Ireland for an instant in their delusional neo-imperial Brexit fantasies. Why should Ireland ride to their rescue or give them an easy out when they did not deign to consider the wishes of Ireland (their "good neighbour") before embarking on their Brexit idiocy?
What is Ireland to them? An after-thought? Such disdain cries out to be punished. Such disdain for the economic and political well-being of their nearest neighbour is not some small matter. It is arrogance of the highest degree; the misplaced arrogance of a 2nd or 3rd rate power that has not yet learned its (lowly) place in the world.

States have no friends, only interests (It bears repeating again and again). Ireland's interest, it's prime national imperative is to erase the border. It is a strategic imperative that overrides all other considerations, given the chaos a hard Brexit will unleash in Ireland.
There should be no misplaced feelings of pity for our English "friends" as the maximum effort is put into achieving Ireland's interest, our selfish objectives.
 

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https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-playing-brexit-whack-a-mole-as-ireland-throws-a-spanner-in-the-works-11131098

"For the first time in the seven or eight century relationship between Britain and Ireland, the Irish exercise power over its larger neighbour."

Let's hope Leo Varadkar (he of the poppy and Love Actually) doesn't blow this opportunity; one that often only falls to a country following a war or such like. Ireland has been gifted an historic opportunity to gain advantage over our neighbour. It has fallen into the lap of the Irish govt, akin to winning the lottery.
England's difficulty should be Ireland's opportunity, all nonsense about England being a friend of Ireland put to one side.
The Irish govt should go for the jugular.
Absolutely.
John Redmond had a huge opportunity fall into his lap in 1914 - and he made blew it completely - and his party was wiped off the map as a result.
 

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Stupidity on the level of Brexit deserves to be punished. The English elite did not consider Ireland for an instant in their delusional neo-imperial Brexit fantasies. Why should Ireland ride to their rescue or give them an easy out when they did not deign to consider the wishes of Ireland (their "good neighbour") before embarking on their Brexit idiocy?
What is Ireland to them? An after-thought? Such disdain cries out to be punished. Such disdain for the economic and political well-being of their nearest neighbour is not some small matter. It is arrogance of the highest degree; the misplaced arrogance of a 2nd or 3rd rate power that has not yet learned its (lowly) place in the world.

States have no friends, only interests (It bears repeating again and again). Ireland's interest, it's prime national imperative is to erase the border. It is a strategic imperative that overrides all other considerations, given the chaos a hard Brexit will unleash in Ireland.
There should be no misplaced feelings of pity for our English "friends" as the maximum effort is put into achieving Ireland's interest, our selfish objectives.
100% correct - there can be no doubt in any Irish leaders mind on this score.
 


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