Brexit, the Russian Connection

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Farage's UKIP has always had a certain degree of exotic connections to the Kremlin...who have been very interested in trying to compromise party grandees

Aaron Banks has well... colourful Russian ties:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8186328/Russian-spy-case-Liberal-Democrat-MP-helped-second-Russian-girl.html

Now the Sunday Times is going to come up with hard evidence:

The @thesundaytimes has seen a huge cache of emails from Arron Banks and Andy Wigmore of (link: http://Leave.EU) Leave.EU to Russian officials. We also have interviews with both. This story is going to develop
https://mobile.twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1005498543740727301
Times story one: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/exclusive-emails-reveal-russian-links-of-millionaire-brexit-backer-arron-banks-6lf5xdp6h

Also this is worth re-reading:
Meet ‘Posh George’: The Shady Money Man Tangled Up With Brexit, Russia, and Trump

Brexit has obviously massively benefitted Putin, and alongside Brexit, there's been a campaign to break up Europe ....Bannon/UKIP/Breitbart focusing heavily on Christian Fascist Nationalism in the former Eastern Bloc countries

If there's hard evidence of collusion...

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Opposing the EU and breaking up Europe isn't the same thing.
I'm united with fellow European Nationalists in Poland, Italy, Hungary, Slovenia the Czech Republic and Austria in opposing globalists in Brussels.

The "Fascist" Nationalists in eastern Europe are no more Fascist or Nationalist than your allies in New Delhi, Seoul, Kiev and Tokyo.
 

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Why do you want to censor/cover up what is a huge topic ?

Alone it is currently leading the Times website

Was Russia clandestinely involved in Brexit ?

Cyp
You are right. This story has been bubbling under for at least 18 months, and what kept it out of the headlines was fear that it would stoke a mini civil war and also result in the break up of the Tory party. Much too much, much too soon for the Men in Grey Suits.

But its not going away. Cambridge Analytica is in the cross-hairs here and so is Farage.
 

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You are right. This story has been bubbling under for at least 18 months, and what kept it out of the headlines was fear that it would stoke a mini civil war and also result in the break up of the Tory party. Much too much, much too soon for the Men in Grey Suits.

But its not going away. Cambridge Analytica is in the cross-hairs here and so is Farage.
As such they had a big post Brexit plan, and that involved an alliance with Putin

There's a strong network of Russia/UKIP contacts

There's not yet public evidence of preBrexit collusion in the sense that Russia altered the campaign

Though the least this will do, is establish the UKIP/Breitbart cohort as active Kremlin allies

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As such they had a big post Brexit plan, and that involved an alliance with Putin

There's a strong network of Russia/UKIP contacts

There's not yet public evidence of preBrexit collusion in the sense that Russia altered the campaign

Though the least this will do, is establish the UKIP/Breitbart cohort as active Kremlin allies

Cyp
Oh my. I thought Farage was being used by Putin, in the opportunistic way Vlad picks up these malcontents, gives them a bit of a boost, and then sits back to see what mayhem may/may not result - its all gravy to him.

But thats like the British Union of Fascists and their famous little Black Book, of who was going to the camps when Germany won. They should all be in bloody Pentonville.
 

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This is discussed in the main Brexit forum. See post 2, for instance, though thx for bringing in the latest information, Cyberianpan. And really old stuff dating from 2010.

Farage's (and others) interests and connections to Russia has also been discussed. Someone also mentioned a couple of days ago Boris Johnson's father's comment that if Russian influence is found in the referendum, then it should be re-run completely. He said that a day or so before the Times's report, so he must have been in the know about something, I guess
 
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Billionaire non-dom newspaper owners are and always were behind Brexit. If Russia was involved they were bit players.
 

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Oh my. I thought Farage was being used by Putin, in the opportunistic way Vlad picks up these malcontents, gives them a bit of a boost, and then sits back to see what mayhem may/may not result - its all gravy to him.

But thats like the British Union of Fascists and their famous little Black Book, of who was going to the camps when Germany won. They should all be in bloody Pentonville.
Read the "Posh George" article in my OP

That certain cavalier lunacy ... juggling...really reminds me of the craziest Russians Putin has in service

Farage et al like the feudal oligarch model

Their ideology would represent a regression of over 3 centuries...

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Billionaire non-dom newspaper owners are and always were behind Brexit. If Russia was involved they were bit players.
I wouldnt be so sure. Wendy Deng, Rupert Murdochs ex-wife, with whom he is on excellent terms, has been ferrying messages to and fro from Rupert, Trumpers in the USA, and of course her prime paymasters, the Chinese, to Putin. So much so, that the Russians even attempted to account for her presence in the Kremlin by implying she and Putin were having an affair. :D

These plutocrats LIKE the Russian model. That is how they know they can do business - no pesky regulators or laws etc.
 

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I wouldnt be so sure. Wendy Deng, Rupert Murdochs ex-wife, with whom he is on excellent terms, has been ferrying messages to and fro from Rupert, Trumpers in the USA, and of course her prime paymasters, the Chinese, to Putin. So much so, that the Russians even attempted to account for her presence in the Kremlin by implying she and Putin were having an affair. :D

These plutocrats LIKE the Russian model. That is how they know they can do business - no pesky regulators or laws etc.
They are morons if they think that Putins system would increase their power.
 

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Farage's UKIP has always had a certain degree of exotic connections to the Kremlin...who have been very interested in trying to compromise party grandees

Aaron Banks has well... colourful Russian ties:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8186328/Russian-spy-case-Liberal-Democrat-MP-helped-second-Russian-girl.html

Now the Sunday Times is going to come up with hard evidence:


Times story one: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/exclusive-emails-reveal-russian-links-of-millionaire-brexit-backer-arron-banks-6lf5xdp6h

Also this is worth re-reading:
Meet ‘Posh George’: The Shady Money Man Tangled Up With Brexit, Russia, and Trump

Brexit has obviously massively benefitted Putin, and alongside Brexit, there's been a campaign to break up Europe ....Bannon/UKIP/Breitbart focusing heavily on Christian Fascist Nationalism in the former Eastern Bloc countries

If there's hard evidence of collusion...

Cyp
Reference to the Times article already posted by firefly123 at 7:04 pm. See link #40535
 

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Yep, Banks' and Wigmore's Russian Intelligence handler was kicked out of the UK after Skripal



The questions ought not be around meetings with the Russian Ambassador ...rather why they had Russiam spy as their handler in the first place...

Observor has the same story too
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/09/arron-banks-russia-brexit-meeting
On 16 November, the documents suggest, Yakovenko invited them to an evening meeting at the Russian embassy. It is not clear if they attended but the next day, 17 November, Leave.EU held its launch event – with Brittany Kaiser of Cambridge Analytica. And on 18 November, Banks and Wigmore again visited the embassy. On this occasion, the Russian ambassador introduced them to a Russian businessman with extensive business interests in Russian goldmines, according to documents seen by the Observer.

It is understood they were presented with a business opportunity in which they were offered a chance to invest in a plan to buy six Russian gold firms and merge them into a single entity, potentially netting a profit of several billion dollars.

...including a trip to Moscow in February 2016 during which Banks was scheduled to meet high-level officials from the state-owned bank.

The deal to buy the goldmines with funding from the bank was announced on 5 July 2016, 12 days after the referendum. It is not clear if Banks invested, although he tweeted on 17 July 2016 : “I am buying gold at the moment & big mining stocks.”
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Its far from conclusive that there was collusion between Russia and the two campaigns. And even if there was, it might be perfectly legal. Also there is no evidence that Cottrels alleged money laundering was tied to the Brexit campaign.
 

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Its far from conclusive that there was collusion between Russia and the two campaigns. And even if there was, it might be perfectly legal. Also there is no evidence that Cottrels alleged money laundering was tied to the Brexit campaign.
A collusion that was perfectly legal.

Do go on.
 


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