BREXIT.. Un-Happened .

Pabilito

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The Brits voted for Brexit but they can’t seem to actually do it!

A month on and still no sign of them triggering article 50 to leave the EU..

Brexit was all about the UK leaving Europe but so far all they have done is avoid leaving Europe,,
 


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The Brits voted for Brexit but they can’t seem to actually do it!

A month on and still no sign of them triggering article 50 to leave the EU..

Brexit was all about the UK leaving Europe but so far all they have done is avoid leaving Europe,,
Its going to take an awful long time to decide which of the 120,000 EU laws to change into Brexit-UK equivalents e.g. British equivalent to CAP subsidies, which to be retained in EU form in the case of Brexit-lite, and which to do away with. Its practicality.
 

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It'll happen, but it'll be that watered down by the time they get to the end it won't seem all that different to if it never happened at all.*









*(tremendous sentence that!)
 

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So much for their Independence day.
 

Pabilito

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Its going to take an awful long time to decide which of the 120,000 EU laws to change into Brexit-UK equivalents e.g. British equivalent to CAP subsidies, which to be retained in EU form in the case of Brexit-lite, and which to do away with. Its practicality.
It may take a while for them to gather their regrets!
 

Dame_Enda

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So tell me why the UK is afraid to trigger article 50?
Party unity probably. She only has a majority of 12, and a fair few Brexiters probably favour a soft Brexit. So they probably want to agree within the Tory party as to whether its going to be a soft or hard Brexit. Of course if you add the DUP the majority rises to 23, and its 25 if you add the previously Remainer UUP (which traditionally prefers Tories as fellow Unionists).
 

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Question is how long the rest of Europe will be willing to tolerate British arseology and foot-dragging. If the Brits feck around and refuse to trigger Article 50 are there any sanctions the rest can impose to hurry them along?
 

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Question is how long the rest of Europe will be willing to tolerate British arseology and foot-dragging. If the Brits feck around and refuse to trigger Article 50 are there any sanctions the rest can impose to hurry them along?
The former Swedish PM Carl Bildt suggested using the sanctions mechanisms from the Lisbon Treaty to suspend the UKs voting rights. However that would be legally shaky as its supposed to be punishment for violations of EU democratic values.

Another longshot idea is treating the referendum result as triggering Article 50 but it doesnt seem to be a runner particularly as the referendum was officially advisory only.
 

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If the UK starts negotiating trade agreements with 3rd counties that would be grounds for suspending their membership. A sudden hard ejection from the common market.
 

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Question is how long the rest of Europe will be willing to tolerate British arseology and foot-dragging. If the Brits feck around and refuse to trigger Article 50 are there any sanctions the rest can impose to hurry them along?
Two of the main reasons given for Brexit were immigration and 'their' £10bn. Until they trigger Article 50 there is nothing they can do about them but continue to accept immigrants and pay over the money. Any urgency will have to come from them
 

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It may take a while for them to gather their regrets!
British sailed out of Dublin in 1922.
Republic was established in 1949. 25 years later.
Have patience young man, you will see your Brexit in 2018 or 2019.
 

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Two of the main reasons given for Brexit were immigration and 'their' £10bn. Until they trigger Article 50 there is nothing they can do about them but continue to accept immigrants and pay over the money. Any urgency will have to come from them
David Davis has stated it will be triggered officially in early 2017.
Really dont see the need for discussion.
 

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Interesting remark by Suzanne Lynch in the Irish times in an ironically pro-Remain article yesterday, which I think goes a long way to explaining why academia is so uniformly pro EU.

Thirdly, British academia is likely to be badly hit given the high dependence of British research on science and research funding from Brussels.
Sortof reminds me of how the EU is the realisation of Mussolinis vision of the Corporate State - "everything within the state - nothing outside the state - nothing against the state". In Fascist Italy that vision was realised by the corporations, which contained representatives of labour, the bosses and a casting vote by fascist party members - which invariably sided with bosses. The EU coopts the unions and business in a similar but different way, through bodies like the European Social Committee, the Erasmus student exchange programme, the Charlemagne prize, jobs for trade unionists, journalists, politicians etc in Brussels and EU agencies located around the EU such as Europol etc. It means that all walks of the professional classes have a stake in the survival of the EU. Not so the working classes, whose jobs are increasingly insecure because of bad trade deals like the impending TPP and from the EU-encouraged influx of cheap labour.
 

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David Davis has stated it will be triggered officially in early 2017.
Really dont see the need for discussion.

But why long finger it?
Exit negotiations can be strung out for 2 years following that...
 

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What's the betting that the ROI will end up having a referendum on the new treaty negotiated between UK and EU in about 10 years time ?
 


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