Brian Walsh ex-FG paid €105K last year by Taxpayers for being sick - is it right?

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The Sunday Times has reported on the 3rd of December 2017 (see page 8) that the former FG rebel TD Brian Walsh has received 105,000 euros of taxpayer money over the past year.

Walsh decided in November 2015 that he would not contest the 2016 election on Health Grounds relating to a Bowel Condition and that he would not receive any "gravy train" deal and would serve his full term. The 43 year old Walsh said at the time he would not receive an Oireactas pension until he was 66.

However, two months later he resigned his seat just weeks out from GE 2016. The records now show is being paid €16K a year as an illness pension payment which will be worth €320,000 to Walsh over the next 20 years.

The trustees of the Houses of the Oireactas pension fund awarded Walsh an extra five years notional service on the grounds that he would have been re-elected if he didn't suffer from a bowel condition. Which IMO is ridiculous.

Is this the right way to go about things or is it another case of Politicans setting one rule for themselves and another for the Hoi Poloi?

Please discuss Politics.ie users.

The 43-Year-Old Pensioner | Broadsheet.ie

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/td-who-quit-over-ill-health-was-paid-105-000-last-year-xz0chzvfk
 
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The Sunday Times has reported on the 3rd of December 2017 (see page 8) that the former FG rebel TD Brian Walsh has received 105,000 euros of taxpayer money over the past year.

Walsh decided in November 2015 that he would not contest the 2016 election on Health Grounds relating to a Bowel Condition and that he would not receive any "gravy train" deal and would serve his full term. The 43 year old Walsh said at the time he would not receive an Oireactas pension until he was 66.

However, two months later he resigned his seat just weeks out from GE 2016. The records now show is being paid €16K a year as an illness pension payment which will be worth €320,000 to Walsh over the next 20 years.

The trustees of the Houses of the Oireactas pension fund awarded Walsh an extra five years notional service on the grounds that he would have been re-elected if he didn't suffer from a bowel condition. Which IMO is ridiculous.

Is this the right way to go about things or is it another case of Politicans setting one rule for themselves and another for the Hoi Poloi?

Please discuss Politics.ie users.

The 43-Year-Old Pensioner | Broadsheet.ie
FG the Party that keeps taking the p###. They have no shame.
 

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The Sunday Times has reported on the 3rd of December 2017 (see page 8) that the former FG rebel TD Brian Walsh has received 105,000 euros of taxpayer money over the past year.

Walsh decided in November 2015 that he would not contest the 2016 election on Health Grounds relating to a Bowel Condition and that he would not receive any "gravy train" deal and would serve his full term. The 43 year old Walsh said at the time he would not receive an Oireactas pension until he was 66.

However, two months later he resigned his seat just weeks out from GE 2016. The records now show is being paid €16K a year as an illness pension payment which will be worth €320,000 to Walsh over the next 20 years.

The trustees of the Houses of the Oireactas pension fund awarded Walsh an extra five years notional service on the grounds that he would have been re-elected if he didn't suffer from a bowel condition. Which IMO is ridiculous.

Is this the right way to go about things or is it another case of Politicans setting one rule for themselves and another for the Hoi Poloi?

Please discuss Politics.ie users.

The 43-Year-Old Pensioner | Broadsheet.ie
Nowhere in that link does it state he has received €105K over the last year and the "advance" pension apparently has not yet been approved nor has the notional payment. Diverticulitis is not a pleasant affliction and might have influenced his decision but nobody can say for sure. That said, people do recover from it well and it is hard to support an outcome in his favour, although he will clearly need ongoing medial attention. On that basis a payout already committed to him in the future might just be a better option for the State coffers. Incidentally the hoi poloi would cost the health and welfare system over their lifetime.
 
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Nowhere in that link does it state he has received €105K over the last year and the "advance" pension apparently has not yet been approved nor has the notional payment. Diverticulitis is not a pleasant affliction and might have influenced his decision but nobody can say for sure. Incidentally the hoi poloi would cost the health and welfare system over their lifetime.
The story was only printed in the ST today and there is not a link available yet, the link provided was more about the background of Walsh in general. Read the ST and you will see the figures for yourself. I have now added a link for you to see the figures for yourself.
 
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The story was only printed in the ST today and there is not a link available yet, the link provided was more about the background of Walsh in general. Read the ST and you will see the figures for yourself.
So why didn't the broadsheet lift those key numbers? All supposition and guessing as a story TBH but an interesting test case for the Oireachtas pension rules all the same. Why are there references to Howlin and Barrett, who are no longer part of government?
 
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So why didn't the broadsheet lift those key numbers? All supposition and guessing as a story TBH but an interesting test case for the Oireachtas pension rules all the same.
The broadsheet article was a bit older, the ST only got the latest information by digging through the records and only published it today.
 

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The broadsheet article was a bit older, the ST only got the latest information by digging through the records and only published it today.
Bit pointless using it to back up anything so!
 

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Perhaps the 105k is the 'goodbye' money politicians get when they leave the dail either when they are defeated in an election or if they don't stand again?

I seem to remember that I read something about this chancer before and the article mentioned him becoming a director of a new business in galway which perhaps indicates how ill he was (not).
 

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The story was only printed in the ST today and there is not a link available yet, the link provided was more about the background of Walsh in general. Read the ST and you will see the figures for yourself. I have now added a link for you to see the figures for yourself.
Sic is sick when it comes to honesty v spin.
 

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Not really - shows the story evolving over time but each to their own I guess.
Not when it refers to actors who've all left the stage. Get better sources!
 

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Perhaps the 105k is the 'goodbye' money politicians get when they leave the dail either when they are defeated in an election or if they don't stand again?

I seem to remember that I read something about this chancer before and the article mentioned him becoming a director of a new business in galway which perhaps indicates how ill he was (not).
Yeah the article mentioned he got paid more than ex-TD and fellow whip rebel Peter Matthews who actually y'know died of his illness. Strange.
 

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Sic is sick when it comes to honesty v spin.
As always the puerile insults from you. Nah, just trying to get some facts, something you're completely allergic to.
 

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Yeah the article mentioned he got paid more than ex-TD and fellow whip rebel Peter Matthews who actually y'know died of his illness. Strange.
Yes. But Matthews was too honest to remain an obedient member of the political wing of dodgysell.

Not sure what Walsh did to manage to fo so well. Probably kept his opinions to himself.
 

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The Sunday Times has reported on the 3rd of December 2017 (see page 8) that the former FG rebel TD Brian Walsh has received 105,000 euros of taxpayer money over the past year.

Walsh decided in November 2015 that he would not contest the 2016 election on Health Grounds relating to a Bowel Condition and that he would not receive any "gravy train" deal and would serve his full term. The 43 year old Walsh said at the time he would not receive an Oireactas pension until he was 66.

However, two months later he resigned his seat just weeks out from GE 2016. The records now show is being paid €16K a year as an illness pension payment which will be worth €320,000 to Walsh over the next 20 years.

The trustees of the Houses of the Oireactas pension fund awarded Walsh an extra five years notional service on the grounds that he would have been re-elected if he didn't suffer from a bowel condition. Which IMO is ridiculous.

Is this the right way to go about things or is it another case of Politicans setting one rule for themselves and another for the Hoi Poloi?

Please discuss Politics.ie users.

The 43-Year-Old Pensioner | Broadsheet.ie

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/td-who-quit-over-ill-health-was-paid-105-000-last-year-xz0chzvfk
Eu MPs retire at 63, and i will be nearly 70 before i allpw d to retire.

Of course there's a one rule for them another for us
 

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Eu MPs retire at 63, and i will be nearly 70 before i allpw d to retire.

Of course there's a one rule for them another for us
You can retire when you want to. Under some private pension schemes you can retire at 50 on half-pension and many PS workers go long before 65. Official pension age will go to 67 in 2021 and 68 in 2028. 70 is likely to be mid century.
 

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Yes. But Matthews was too honest to remain an obedient member of the political wing of dodgysell.

Not sure what Walsh did to manage to fo so well. Probably kept his opinions to himself.
Walsh resigned the whip at the same time as Matthews but quickly tucked tail and returned to the FG sheepfold, begging the Parliamentary Party to be let back in. He did this despite Enda's threat that the rebels would never run for FG in the next election - a threat, thanks to Walsh's resignation, that oddly turned out to be kept.
 


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