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Britain to be subject to yet more immigration from Eastern Europe, expects predict.


Dr Pat

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An article in today's Daily (Sunday) Telegraph says that "Britain is facing a new wave of Eastern European immigration which will put British workers’ jobs at risk, experts have warned."

Article here:Britain facing new eastern Europe immigration surge - Telegraph

According to the article "Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.
Last night forecasters said it could lead to a significant number of new arrivals, in the same way as when Poland and other Eastern European countries gained the same rights in 2004, with the scale likely to be increased by the economic crisis gripping the rest of Europe."

An excerpt from the fairly long piece reads "Experts on the government’s Migration Advisory Committee agree immigration is likely to rise when the restrictions are lifted, and have warned it will have a negative effect on the job market in Britain."

It is significant that according to the piece that, even on existing numbers in Britain,

"Official figures from the Department for Work and Pensions showed 40,260 Romanian and Bulgarian workers applied for National Insurance numbers last year - the largest number on record and a 28 per cent rise year on year."

What are the implications for Ireland, north and south, with the possibility of yet more immigrants looking to relocate because of significantly higher standards of living than in their home countries? Can our economies and social support systems bear this?
 


TheWexfordInn

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An article in today's Daily (Sunday) Telegraph says that "Britain is facing a new wave of Eastern European immigration which will put British workers’ jobs at risk, experts have warned."
Britain is becoming too crowded, the population of England and Wales increased by 4 million in the 10 years to 2011

Incidently the population of Scotland increased by a more reasonably sounding 190,600 in the same period

The population density in England is already almost double the level in Germany and quadruple that of France.

I dont think Ireland has got the same population density problems that Britain has.
 

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The Brits found nothing wrong going into everyone else's country for their Empire. Chickens come home to roostpetunia
 

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Do you really think Britain will be part of the same EU in 2014?
 

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They were never enforced anyway
Well they were in a way. The State would only be too happy to issue a Romanian or Bulgarian with a PPS number but when it came to claiming any social benefit afterwards the State would rely on the fact that person did not have a work permit. This was subject to various legal challenges and that's why the State removed the requirement.
 

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An article in today's Daily (Sunday) Telegraph says that "Britain is facing a new wave of Eastern European immigration which will put British workers’ jobs at risk, experts have warned."

Article here:Britain facing new eastern Europe immigration surge - Telegraph

According to the article "Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.
Last night forecasters said it could lead to a significant number of new arrivals, in the same way as when Poland and other Eastern European countries gained the same rights in 2004, with the scale likely to be increased by the economic crisis gripping the rest of Europe."

An excerpt from the fairly long piece reads "Experts on the government’s Migration Advisory Committee agree immigration is likely to rise when the restrictions are lifted, and have warned it will have a negative effect on the job market in Britain."

It is significant that according to the piece that, even on existing numbers in Britain,

"Official figures from the Department for Work and Pensions showed 40,260 Romanian and Bulgarian workers applied for National Insurance numbers last year - the largest number on record and a 28 per cent rise year on year."

What are the implications for Ireland, north and south, with the possibility of yet more immigrants looking to relocate because of significantly higher standards of living than in their home countries? Can our economies and social support systems bear this?
The UK is the obvious target with the NHS, Housing Benefit, Transport passes, plenty of cash in hand work in hospitality etc.
 

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Vote Yes for jobs.......
 

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England's Genocide in Ireland made sure of that.
While the famine had an impact on our modern population, the real impact on Irish population has been emigration, an impact far in excess greater than that of the famine.
 

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The horror stories in that article dating from the 1950s could have equally well been dated from the 1980s. I remember well all the guys who lined up early every morning on Cricklewood Broadway looking for "a start". And then seeing all these guys queueing up to cash their paychecks when the dingy hatch behind the bar in the Archway Tavern opened up in the evening, the scene described here was a standard occurrence back in 1980s

Construction workers were often paid by cheque. Deeply mistrustful of banks, they were forced to cash these cheques in the pub. Catherine Morris says: "Although the cheque would be handed in at six, the money was not handed over until midnight. You had to drink all night to get your money." And buy the ganger a drink, of course. Otherwise, you might not work the following day.
And the worst thing is the people who were ripping of these Irish immigrants were Irish themselves with many of these sc*mbags returning to Ireland during the boom and suddenly being regarded as high power Celtic Tiger property developer tycoons.
 

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Well they were in a way. The State would only be too happy to issue a Romanian or Bulgarian with a PPS number but when it came to claiming any social benefit afterwards the State would rely on the fact that person did not have a work permit. This was subject to various legal challenges and that's why the State removed the requirement.
Must tell that one to the Roma family living up the road

- for years!

There are plenty of Roma families housed in private estates here now whose members can be seen begging on the streets of Dublin

They were not out here before Romania joined the EU...
 

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Must tell that one to the Roma family living up the road

- for years!

There are plenty of Roma families housed in private estates here now whose members can be seen begging on the streets of Dublin

They were not out here before Romania joined the EU...
Romanians had the right to free movement in the Union after accession. The restriction related to the right to work. They did not have the right to apply for social welfare or go on the housing list.
 

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