British interference in Irish elections? Tonight's FF PPB


clytaemnestra

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Charlie Bird on RTÉ One News is reporting that tonight's party political broadcast will include footage of George Mitchell, Bill Clinton and Tony Blair praising Bertie Ahern.

Do posters think that it is appropriate - whatever about the others - for a serving British Prime Minister to endorse one particular candidate for taoiseach in an Irish general election?
 
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Will people notice or care? All it does is enforce how useless Bertie has been at domestic issues. Funny how there are no pictures of Bertie talking to nurses or teachers or guards.
 

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It is as approriate as a German one endorsing a FG candidate
:roll: Angela Merkel, leader of one of FG's sister parties in the EPP, endorsed Kenny at a party meeting (the Ard Fheis). There's a world of difference between that and appearing on a party political broadcast.
 

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The Earl of Desmond said:
....there are no pictures of Bertie talking to nurses or teachers or guards.
Well, if Enda were to make it as taoiseach he'd have a 1,000 fewer gardai (15 under the rainbow) to be pictured with than if FF (16,000 gardai) were in Govt.


As for the FF PPB - Blair and Clinton recognise how much Bertie Ahern has achieved in securing peace & prosperity on this island - something Enda has neither the grace nor the sense to acknowledge or accept.

Instead he and FG copy Berlusconi's campaign and look for Angela Merkel's endorsement - - - FG looking to Italy and Germany for support and inspiration...... Gen O'Duffy lives!!!
 

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dail usher said:
[quote="The Earl of Desmond":1z0cf8ji] ....there are no pictures of Bertie talking to nurses or teachers or guards.
Well, if Enda were to make it as taoiseach he'd have a 1,000 fewer gardai (15 under the rainbow) to be pictured with than if FF (16,000 gardai) were in Govt.


As for the FF PPB - Blair and Clinton recognise how much Bertie Ahern has achieved in securing peace & prosperity on this island - something Enda has neither the grace nor the sense to acknowledge or accept.

Instead he and FG copy Berlusconi's campaign and look for Angela Merkel's endorsement - - - FG looking to Italy and Germany for support and inspiration...... Gen O'Duffy lives!!![/quote:1z0cf8ji]

Yeah and FF look to Britian for help..... Dermot MacMurrough lives!!!
 

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FF seem to have changed their tune on "foreign interference"

"External endorsements are hardly the way to convince the electorate it's the right party for them"

- spokeswoman for the Taoiseach, April 2nd

"The Irish people have a very deep rooted sense of not being told what to do by foreign powers. I hope that if Enda Kenny has any understanding of the Irish people, he will ask her [Merkel] to withdraw that letter. What it does show is a massive inferiority complex that a party feels they have to get endorsements from people in other countries."

- Seán Fleming TD, April 2nd

"My message for her [Merkel] would be: 'stick to your politics in Germany'. What does she know about the ins and outs of politics here or what's best for the Irish people?"

- Martin Brady TD, April 2nd

Desperate times, and all that.......
 

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Its a bit pathetic.
Its funny that FF are so keen to get the support and respect of the British PM.
Who's the west-brit now boys?
 

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Re: British interference in Irish elections? Tonight's FF PP

clytaemnestra said:
Charlie Bird on RTÉ One News is reporting that tonight's party political broadcast will include footage of George Mitchell, Bill Clinton and Tony Blair praising Bertie Ahern.

Do posters think that it is appropriate - whatever about the others - for a serving British Prime Minister to endorse one particular candidate for taoiseach in an Irish general election?
In 1997, Bill Clinton appeared on a FG election broadcast. So less of the hypocracy.

All the guys who took part knew what it would be used for and all Im sure would have had the ability to look at it and sign off on it.

FF are entitled to talk about our achievements - Peace on this island is the most important achievement
 

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We unlike the British are full members of the European community--we are much nearer to Berlin than we are to Bostonand our future lies with our partners in Europe---not with USwarmongers and our new found friends in the UK----dont think these endorsments are gonna resurrect Bertie
 

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BarryW said:
FF seem to have changed their tune on "foreign interference"

"External endorsements are hardly the way to convince the electorate it's the right party for them"

- spokeswoman for the Taoiseach, April 2nd

"The Irish people have a very deep rooted sense of not being told what to do by foreign powers. I hope that if Enda Kenny has any understanding of the Irish people, he will ask her [Merkel] to withdraw that letter. What it does show is a massive inferiority complex that a party feels they have to get endorsements from people in other countries."

- Seán Fleming TD, April 2nd

"My message for her [Merkel] would be: 'stick to your politics in Germany'. What does she know about the ins and outs of politics here or what's best for the Irish people?"

- Martin Brady TD, April 2nd

Desperate times, and all that.......
There is a world of a difference. Merkel was saying she hoped FG would succeed at the election, These guys are talking about Berties abilities and traits and how they helped with the Peace Process.

Is this the best the FG Black Propaganda Office can come up with. Ill say fair dues the FG press office got those quotes to you very quickly...
 

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Re: British interference in Irish elections? Tonight's FF PP

Dunny said:
clytaemnestra said:
Charlie Bird on RTÉ One News is reporting that tonight's party political broadcast will include footage of George Mitchell, Bill Clinton and Tony Blair praising Bertie Ahern.

Do posters think that it is appropriate - whatever about the others - for a serving British Prime Minister to endorse one particular candidate for taoiseach in an Irish general election?
In 1997, Bill Clinton appeared on a FG election broadcast. So less of the hypocracy.

All the guys who took part knew what it would be used for and all Im sure would have had the ability to look at it and sign off on it.

FF are entitled to talk about our achievements - Peace on this island is the most important achievement
While it is true that Clinton appeared on a FG broadcast in 1997 it was merely news footage from College Green when Clinton urged the Irish people to "Stand by your Taoiseach".
 

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Newsflash! George W Bush has announced he's to organise squadrons of marines to leave their base in Shannon and escort people to the polling booths on election day, and to make sure they vote 'correctly'!
 

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Dunny said:
There is a world of a difference. Merkel was saying she hoped FG would succeed at the election, These guys are talking about Berties abilities and traits and how they helped with the Peace Process
"External endorsements are hardly the way to convince the electorate it's the right party for them"

What it does show is a massive inferiority complex that a party feels they have to get endorsements from people in other countries."

Which of these FF statements don't you understand?

Foreign interference is awful in April, but its perfectly OK in May :roll:

Absolutely pathetic
 

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Hey Barry - you seem to have gone to a lot of trouble to look up those quotes. Good to see that your hotline into the FG media centre is as strong as ever.

There is a bit of a difference though.

Bill Clinton, George Mitchell, Tony Blair are all paying tribute to Bertie Ahern's leadership qualities and talking about what he has done from Ireland when viewed from the international perspective.

Chancellor Merkel was writing to the FG Ard Fheis hoping that FG would succeed in the election.

They are paying tribute to what Bertie has done - she was urging FG to succeed (and possibly join her and the EPP get EU tax harmonisation)
 

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dail usher said:
Hey Barry - you seem to have gone to a lot of trouble to look up those quotes. Good to see that your hotline into the FG media centre is as strong as ever.

There is a bit of a difference though.

Bill Clinton, George Mitchell, Tony Blair are all paying tribute to Bertie Ahern's leadership qualities and talking about what he has done from Ireland when viewed from the international perspective.

Chancellor Merkel was writing to the FG Ard Fheis hoping that FG would succeed in the election.

They are paying tribute to what Bertie has done - she was urging FG to succeed (and possibly join her and the EPP get EU tax harmonisation)
So if they are merely paying tribute to Bertie's leadership qualities, why is it being packaged into a medium which hopes he will succeed in the election?
 

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BarryW said:
Dunny said:
There is a world of a difference. Merkel was saying she hoped FG would succeed at the election, These guys are talking about Berties abilities and traits and how they helped with the Peace Process
"External endorsements are hardly the way to convince the electorate it's the right party for them"

What it does show is a massive inferiority complex that a party feels they have to get endorsements from people in other countries."

Which of these FF statements don't you understand?

Foreign interference is awful in April, but its perfectly OK in May :roll:

Absolutely pathetic
First of all, none of the speakers urge any one to vote in any direction.

They are talking about Bertie. People can make up their own minds. Merkel was hoping the FG would succeed so that once again the Bluehshirts can be the lapdogs of Germany
 

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Could one imagine the reaction in the UK if an Irish Prime Minister endorsed the candidature of a Labour or Tory leader in a British election----think they would regard it as an Irish joke
 

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Dunny
First of all, none of the speakers urge any one to vote in any direction.
So why are FF packaging it into a vehicle that will urge people to vote in a particular direction?
 
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