British MP Believes Hard Brexit Will Lead To Violence...

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MP Chris Hazzard...

'With regards to the spectre of violence - we know and this is what we have been trying to get at - with the Good Friday Agreement we are dealing with an international peace accord.
'There is a particular context in that agreement set down and embedded, it has nurtured peace and devolved government for the best part of 20 years.
'But it's a peace process, it is not an event as such. It is always very fragile, it is especially fragile in a post Brexit context.'
He said a return to border customs posts or any other hard infrastructure would spark a widespread outcry.
He added: 'And I go even further, an awful lot of the focus has been on maybe dissident republican organisations and threats, but it is wider than that - it goes right down to a feeling of civil disobedience.



Read more: Sinn Fein warns of vioelnce if hard Irish border returns | Daily Mail Online

Mind you Shin Flake did say collapsing Stormont would threaten the peace process until they decided to collapse it themsleves alone...
 


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MP Chris Hazzard...

'With regards to the spectre of violence - we know and this is what we have been trying to get at - with the Good Friday Agreement we are dealing with an international peace accord.
'There is a particular context in that agreement set down and embedded, it has nurtured peace and devolved government for the best part of 20 years.
'But it's a peace process, it is not an event as such. It is always very fragile, it is especially fragile in a post Brexit context.'
He said a return to border customs posts or any other hard infrastructure would spark a widespread outcry.
He added: 'And I go even further, an awful lot of the focus has been on maybe dissident republican organisations and threats, but it is wider than that - it goes right down to a feeling of civil disobedience.



Read more: Sinn Fein warns of vioelnce if hard Irish border returns | Daily Mail Online

Mind you Shin Flake did say collapsing Stormont would threaten the peace process until they decided to collapse it themsleves alone...
Yada Yada, true peace will only come from Brexit - but not out of Europe but the f@ck out of Ireland
 

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MP Chris Hazzard...

'With regards to the spectre of violence - we know and this is what we have been trying to get at - with the Good Friday Agreement we are dealing with an international peace accord.
'There is a particular context in that agreement set down and embedded, it has nurtured peace and devolved government for the best part of 20 years.
'But it's a peace process, it is not an event as such. It is always very fragile, it is especially fragile in a post Brexit context.'
He said a return to border customs posts or any other hard infrastructure would spark a widespread outcry.
He added: 'And I go even further, an awful lot of the focus has been on maybe dissident republican organisations and threats, but it is wider than that - it goes right down to a feeling of civil disobedience.



Read more: Sinn Fein warns of vioelnce if hard Irish border returns | Daily Mail Online

Mind you Shin Flake did say collapsing Stormont would threaten the peace process until they decided to collapse it themsleves alone...
Great. We need this final showdown to sort things out once and for all. I suggest a field in Blacklion. Knives, knuckle dusters, pitchforks, hurls and lambeg drums. No guns. Winner takes all.
 

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Irish politician tells British that people in Ireland will stand up for their rights and oppose a hard border with civil disobedience and protests.

Though it is possible any potential violence will come from the British and Unionism like it did the last time Irish people stood up for their rights.
 

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The GFA is a done deal.

It is not, despite how SF sold it, a mechanism purely to Unite Ireland.

And where in the GFA was there any mention that remaining in the EU was a condition?
Of course, the GFA is not a mechanism for a United Ireland. It secures the position of NI within the UK unless NI voters decide otherwise.

This makes it all the more mystifying why attempts by Dublin to defend the GFA are met with accusations that it's a conspiracy to bring about a UI.

The GFA makes much mention of the EU context although a literal reading of it doesn't require the UK to remain in the EU. However, there is no way one can maintain the structures and levels of cross-border cooperation described in the GFA if there's a hard border.
 

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Irish politician tells British that people in Ireland will stand up for their rights and oppose a hard border with civil disobedience and protests.

Though it is possible any potential violence will come from the British and Unionism like it did the last time Irish people stood up for their rights.
Smash the barstewarts with the trojan equality...
 

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Smash the barstewarts with the trojan equality...
That is under the file 'Stormont'.

Which you still ain't getting back until yiz buy every Fenian a fish supper every Tuesday night.
 

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That is under the file 'Stormont'.

Which you still ain't getting back until yiz buy every Fenian a fish supper every Tuesday night.
Pffft, for Cod and Ulster...
 

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It’s hard to see what violence could achieve. What would the demand be? The question of unity is a matter of persuasion now. In any case people of all backgrounds will suffer if Brexit is a disaster. For one episode the dreary steeples will be in the same lifeboat if I may mix my metaphors. It will be up to the people on both sides to work out what their best future is.
 

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A substantial PUL/British right wing element are itching for the conflict for restart in the North. Michael Gove wrote a paper on the Good Friday Agreement where he opined that Ireland should never be consulted about the North and the SAS should be sent in again. The DUP and other Loyalist extremists want a 300 mile razor wire, watchtower, machine guns border and Paddy Irishman to be treated like he was in the 19th century. I have been saying for a long time that these ultra British Nationalists are deliberately provoking an Irish Republican campaign.
 
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Irish politician tells British that people in Ireland will stand up for their rights and oppose a hard border with civil disobedience and protests.

Though it is possible any potential violence will come from the British and Unionism like it did the last time Irish people stood up for their rights.
Oh come on when has civil disobedience and peaceful protests have British and Unionist opposers resorting to violence............. ok well apart from 1920's. 30's 40's etc etc etc etc
 

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He suggests a referendum which seems reasonable but thing is it would probably have nothing to do with trade issues and would degenerate into a tribal and sectarian headcount.
Not at all. It will be about the economy. 57% of those who voted in the referendum wished to remain in the EU. A great many of those were not nationalists. Only sectarian head counters would oppose this suggested referendum .
 

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Of course, the GFA is not a mechanism for a United Ireland. It secures the position of NI within the UK unless NI voters decide otherwise.

This makes it all the more mystifying why attempts by Dublin to defend the GFA are met with accusations that it's a conspiracy to bring about a UI.

The GFA makes much mention of the EU context although a literal reading of it doesn't require the UK to remain in the EU. However, there is no way one can maintain the structures and levels of cross-border cooperation described in the GFA if there's a hard border.
The British government, and a sizeable section of the population there (largely over 60 and harbouring notions of empirical importance) have their heads firmly embedded in their anal canals.

For a glimpse into this nether-world read the comments section on any EU-related story on the BBC news site.

The levels of detachment from reality are positively Lewis Carrolesque.
 

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He suggests a referendum which seems reasonable but thing is it would probably have nothing to do with trade issues and would degenerate into a tribal and sectarian headcount.
Except that the previous brexit vote demonstrates otherwise. Perhaps a little studying of the situation might do you some good. This tolandesque sighting of "tribalism" at all manner of things is getting a little tiresome.
 


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