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Brutal rape of 5 year old in Delhi


Clanrickard

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Girl (5) fighting for her life in New Delhi after brutal 48-hour rape ordeal - The Irish Times - Sat, Apr 20, 2013

My daughter is five so when I saw this I had to reread it to make sure I didn't make a mistake. I really don't know what goes through the perpetrators heads when they do this. I am against capital punishment but crimes like this cause me to waver. The Indian government needs to look at the status of women closely and do something about the seemingly casual disregard for women that exists in Indian society. The role of the police who in this case showed crass insensitivity would give me the belief that training in the area of handling sex crimes is badly needed. The Economist has a letter this week from someone who points out that by some measures women are worse off in India than Saudi Arabia. I gave my daughter a hug when I finished reading the article and told her how lucky she is to live in Ireland. She smiled but obviously didn't understand. I hope this poor girl's parents see her smile again.
 

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I'm for the death penalty. However, in some cases it's not enough. People who do these things should die slowly and in horrible pain. If that brings me down to their level, lower me down.
 

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Girl (5) fighting for her life in New Delhi after brutal 48-hour rape ordeal - The Irish Times - Sat, Apr 20, 2013

My daughter is five so when I saw this I had to reread it to make sure I didn't make a mistake. I really don't know what goes through the perpetrators heads when they do this. I am against capital punishment but crimes like this cause me to waver. The Indian government needs to look at the status of women closely and do something about the seemingly casual disregard for women that exists in Indian society. The role of the police who in this case showed crass insensitivity would give me the belief that training in the area of handling sex crimes is badly needed. The Economist has a letter this week from someone who points out that by some measures women are worse off in India than Saudi Arabia. I gave my daughter a hug when I finished reading the article and told her how lucky she is to live in Ireland. She smiled but obviously didn't understand. I hope this poor girl's parents see her smile again.
There is nothing that can mitigate this activity and I'm afraid the deterrent of death is the only response in my opinion. We struggle in "supposed" civilized countries to prosecute the correct perpetrator so this would definitely be a problem in India particularly with the class system. However the greater good must be the holy grail and collateral damage is inevitable . I can think of a few in this country who may not have violated one so young but yet who's crimes were no less heinous and death by lethal injection would be the correct course of action....-..possibly for all concerned!
 

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I'm all for the death penalty.

But is it possible that a teeny bit of the coverage of such crime in India is because in all the horror it comforts us to think that it's some foreigners half way around the world? It may well have a higher incidence of crime against women, and have no stats at all but just a suspicion that somewhere right now a lot closer to home horrific crimes are being perpetrated on some child.
 

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I'm all for the death penalty.

But is it possible that a teeny bit of the coverage of such crime in India is because in all the horror it comforts us to think that it's some foreigners half way around the world? It may well have a higher incidence of crime against women, and have no stats at all but just a suspicion that somewhere right now a lot closer to home horrific crimes are being perpetrated on some child.
Our hospitals for example, sentence innocent Indian women to death, for the crime of miscarrying
 

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The guy who did it is a monster, simple as that and we all ant him put away forever.
The Indian cops who dismissed the 5 year olds initial disappearance and told the parents:
“Later they told us that we should be ‘content’ with the fact she was at least found alive"
Scum that should be fired and then tried as accomplices to the rape.
They let it happen, I can honestly not see any but a psychopath behaving in that manner, God knows what else they have done or let happen that hasn't had a light shone on it.
India has enormous problems.
 

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Our hospitals for example, sentence innocent Indian women to death, for the crime of miscarrying
Stop being a hysterical halfwit and stay on topic.
 

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Our hospitals for example, sentence innocent Indian women to death, for the crime of miscarrying
The behaviour of the docs in that case was as nothing compared to the willful neglect of the Indian cops and then their stunning callousness on finding out what had happened to her.
That said I have a feeling no one professional will pay any price individually in either case.
 

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Can you lot please be quiet,

I'm trying to listen to Praveen's outrage on Rte,
 

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The guy who did it is a monster, simple as that and we all ant him put away forever.
The Indian cops who dismissed the 5 year olds initial disappearance and told the parents:
“Later they told us that we should be ‘content’ with the fact she was at least found alive"
Scum that should be fired and then tried as accomplices to the rape...
It is a newspaper report of allegations made against the police by third parties.

Even if true, incompetence and being glib in the discharge of their duty does not make them guilty as accomplices, no more than the staff of the hospital in Galway are guilty of crimes.
 

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The behaviour of the docs in that case was as nothing compared to the willful neglect of the Indian cops and then their stunning callousness on finding out what had happened to her.
That said I have a feeling no one professional will pay any price individually in either case.
I could half understand the police reaction if this happened in a some god forsaken jungle or desert but in the capital city one would expect they'd be better train ed especially given recent events. Does not give women in India a lot of confidence about their saftey.
 

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It is a newspaper report of allegations made against the police by third parties.

Even if true, incompetence and being glib in the discharge of their duty does not make them guilty as accomplices, no more than the staff of the hospital in Galway are guilty of crimes.
Disregarding the disappearance of a 5 year old child (if the report is true) is more then just incompetence IMO.
There may or may not be laws to cover this but people in jobs that give them power over people's lives should have more drastic punishments if they willfully disregard their duty.
In Ireland knowing of a crime against a child and doing nothing is a criminal offence, not exactly the same situation but the cops job give them extra duty of care.
 

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Our hospitals for example, sentence innocent Indian women to death, for the crime of miscarrying
Are you seriously trying to say there is a comparison? This was a 5 year old child who was kidnapped and brutally abused and raped for crying out loud. This type of abuser should be lynched.
 

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Our hospitals for example, sentence innocent Indian women to death, for the crime of miscarrying
Hmmm yourself and turds ..... Sick asxholes
 
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I think people shouldn't get hysterical about these crimes emanating from India. The population of India is close to twice that of Europe or something like 200 times that of Ireland so hold fire on heaping opprobrium on to India until someone establishes that these crimes are happing proportionally in greater numbers in India than here.
 

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I could half understand the police reaction if this happened in a some god forsaken jungle or desert but in the capital city one would expect they'd be better train ed especially given recent events. Does not give women in India a lot of confidence about their saftey.
A pervert would have got away with a crime like this in our own capital not so long ago if he happened to be wearing a dog collar.
 

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I'm all for the death penalty.

But is it possible that a teeny bit of the coverage of such crime in India is because in all the horror it comforts us to think that it's some foreigners half way around the world? It may well have a higher incidence of crime against women, and have no stats at all but just a suspicion that somewhere right now a lot closer to home horrific crimes are being perpetrated on some child.
Problem with the death penalty is, because of the appeals process etc, it ends up costing a lot more than having to pay the costs to keep such a convict in prison.

I would be in favour of giving people who have been convicted of at least 3 serious crimes the lockdown punishment throughout their time in the can.

Attempt to rehabilitate them the first 2 times they are imprisoned. If this fails, stop wasting taxpayers money on the scum, as well as hopefully deterring them as they will know that, if convicted, they will suffer the consequences big time.
 

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If only the Irish Times, and a lot of others, was a bit better at it's job years ago when children were being raped in this Country....
 

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Executing monsters feels good but in reality it's not a detterant. Also there's the possibility of executing an innocent person. I would rather see these evil b'stards serve proper life sentences in as harsh an environment as could possibly be imagined. Maybe a nursing home????
 
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