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Bruton evokes Dev in comments on economy: young are "being brought up for export"


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In a speech in the Dail in 1934 Eamon Devalera uttered what's become an exceptionally famous phrase.

No longer shall our children, like our cattle, be brought up for export.
Eamon de Valera Dail comments, 1934

In a intended reference to those remarks by Dev, Richard Bruton, the Fine Gael spokesman for Enterprise has warned that Ireland’s young unemployed are ‘being brought up for export’.

Bruton warns Ireland’s young unemployed ‘being brought up for export’

The number of Irish people leaving the country is up by a staggering 33%
year on year. The impact of emigration is reflected in a drop in
unemployment among the young and the non-Irish in these latest figures.
Well if this doesn't upset the Fianna Failers, I don't know what will.....
 

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I don't think the FF'ers would be upset, more likely delighted that they were successfully exporting more potential opposition, like in the past.
 

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I don't think the FF'ers would be upset, more likely delighted that they were successfully exporting more potential opposition, like in the past.
Emigration was often refereed to as a "Safety Valve". It had the benefit of generating remittances back to Ireland which played no small part in diluting the hardships the remaining "Citizens" suffered.

And sure wasn't it Dev who kicked off the trade war with Britain?

inspired, that...
 

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I'd imagine Labour and the other left-wing parties will be most affected by the worrying re-establishment of the mass emigration of young people, as those young people most disaffected with the system tend to lean towards the left .
 

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No longer shall our children, like our cattle, be brought up for export.
Would it be true to say that they are also being brought up for 'export duties'?

As in, their labour will be commandeered to make goods for exports, the income on which will be used to pay for the legacy of the great wealth transfer that has taken place this last number of years.
 

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At least they won't have to repay the debt that the incompetent government has loaded onto the nation.
 

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I don't think the FF'ers would be upset, more likely delighted that they were successfully exporting more potential opposition, like in the past.
Coughlan will be happy for them - off to travel and have some fun as she predicted when she was minister for Enterprise justifying the high levels of immigration.
 

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Coughlan will be happy for them - off to travel and have some fun as she predicted when she was minister for Enterprise justifying the high levels of immigration.
That's right, in a kind of Marie Antoinette moment she compared people emigrating to "going off on the J1 visa". Gives you an idea of the fantasy world, sheltered from reality that Coughlan inhabits.
 

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Well if this doesn't upset the Fianna Failers, I don't know what will.....
This won't upset them.

Emigration is the economic safety valve, it's actually Gov policy.
 

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FF don't care. Their kid's will be looked after in their own personal fiefdom or given a job by some who needs/or has done a favour to the party. No one way Plane ticket for T.D,s Kid,s out of this sinking county unless it's A private Plane cause after all their worth it..
 

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Let us not forget that they are not included in the live register.
 

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And sure wasn't it Dev who kicked off the trade war with Britain?

inspired, that...
He didn't kick off anything. He rightly refused to honour conditions under the Treaty precurred under the duress of British might and in retaliation Britain turned the economic knife.

Dev would never have stood for what is happening in Ireland today. The current FF crop are a blemish on his good name.
 

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He didn't kick off anything. He rightly refused to honour conditions under the Treaty precurred under the duress of British might and in retaliation Britain turned the economic knife.

Dev would never have stood for what is happening in Ireland today. The current FF crop are a blemish on his good name.
Dev's good name?

What the one thats drenched in the blood of his fellow Irishmen and women.
 

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He means to say that in the opinions of many the Civil War was a direct result of De Valera's intransigiency
 

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He means to say that in the opinions of many the Civil War was a direct result of De Valera's intransigiency
Well considering that the Civil War was, as a matter of fact, inevitable and not a direct result of De Valera's intransigiency, I still don't understand what he's talking about.

In any case, the blood of the Civil War is on British hands not Irish hands.
 

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Well considering that the Civil War was, as a matter of fact, inevitable and not a direct result of De Valera's intransigiency, I still don't understand what he's talking about.

In any case, surely the blood of the Civiil War is on British hands and not any Irish person?
I never claimed to be of that opinion, simply stating that it was held by many. I think the issues at the time were very complicated, and if the answers were clear cut there wouldn't have been any division in the first place, whether one takes one side to be entirely right or wrong is at the discretion of the individual.
 

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Well considering that the Civil War was, as a matter of fact, inevitable and not a direct result of De Valera's intransigiency, I still don't understand what he's talking about.

In any case, the blood of the Civil War is on British hands not Irish hands.
"If the Treaty were accepted, [by the electorate] the fight for freedom would still go on, and the Irish people, instead of fighting foreign soldiers, will have to fight the Irish soldiers of an Irish government set up by Irishmen." At Thurles, several days later, he repeated this imagery and added that the IRA: "...would have to wade through the blood of the soldiers of the Irish Government, and perhaps through that of some members of the Irish Government to get their freedom." In a letter to the Irish Times on 23 March de Valera accepted the accuracy of their report of his comment about "wading" through blood, but deplored that the newspaper had published it.

Yeah Dev did his best to avoid any bloodshed didn't he.
 

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Good old Politics.ie.

Contemporary politician paraphrases Dev. Thread on the subject degenerates into "Was Dev a murderous bast-rd who started the civil war?", Round 72,956.

Bruton is right to draw attention to emigration. Let's keep it there.
 

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"If the Treaty were accepted, [by the electorate] the fight for freedom would still go on, and the Irish people, instead of fighting foreign soldiers, will have to fight the Irish soldiers of an Irish government set up by Irishmen." At Thurles, several days later, he repeated this imagery and added that the IRA: "...would have to wade through the blood of the soldiers of the Irish Government, and perhaps through that of some members of the Irish Government to get their freedom." In a letter to the Irish Times on 23 March de Valera accepted the accuracy of their report of his comment about "wading" through blood, but deplored that the newspaper had published it.

Yeah Dev did his best to avoid any bloodshed didn't he.
Well when you're put in a a position between bloodshed and freedom, maybe the people who put you in such a position are responsible for the bloodshed (or lack of freedom).

Civil War wasn't Dev's fault, nor was the economic war.
 
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