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Budget Day - what's on your wish list?

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Tomorrow, Brian Cowen will announce the 2007 Budget in the Dáil, Politics.ie will bring you live coverage, point by point, as it happens.

In the meantime, what's on your wishlist for the budget? If you were to make a budget submission, what would you be asking for?

Should the tax bands change? Should the minimum wage change? Talk to Politics.ie ......
 


XRoot

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More money for me!! :x

1. increased mortgage interest relief
2. shave a bit off the top PAYE rate
3. increase the lower rate limit
4. don't do anything else
 

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First-time buyers get all the sweets. I'm hoping he does something nice for second-time buyers.
 

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Bump up the no pay and lower rate bands alot.
Slight increase in top rate.
Cut social welfare to single people.
Increase spending primary education.
Increase spending on education targeted at 'disadvantaged'
 

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My budget day wishlist............ A successful coup d'état whereby armed guerillas burst into Leinster House during the budget speech, and declare Ireland a 32-county socialist republic and immediately set about implementing the Democratic Programme of the first Dáil, whereupon they open up on all reactionary and anti-revolutionary TDs with AK47s...... No? Oh sorry, wrong meeting............
 

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Johnny said:
My budget dat wishlist............ A successful coup d'état whereby armed guerillas burst into Leinster House during the budget speech, and declare Ireland a 32-county socialist republic and immediately set about implementing the Democratic Programme of the first Dáil, whereupon they open up on all reactionary and anti-revolutionary TDs with AK47s...... No? Oh sorry, wrong meeting............
You also got the wrong day. The budget is tomorrow. Burst into the Dail today with your AK47's and the only thing you are likely to disturb are the mothballs!
 

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kerrynorth said:
Johnny said:
My budget day wishlist............ A successful coup d'état whereby armed guerillas burst into Leinster House during the budget speech, and declare Ireland a 32-county socialist republic and immediately set about implementing the Democratic Programme of the first Dáil, whereupon they open up on all reactionary and anti-revolutionary TDs with AK47s...... No? Oh sorry, wrong meeting............
You also got the wrong day. The budget is tomorrow. Burst into the Dail today with your AK47's and the only thing you are likely to disturb are the mothballs!
Eh... where did I mention today?
 

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I see were cutting the top rate of tax...why aren't we cutting stealth taxes or the lower rate? :?: :?: :?: :?:

THATS what I'd like to see.
 

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Gladstone said:
I see were cutting the top rate of tax...why aren't we cutting stealth taxes or the lower rate? :?: :?: :?: :?:

THATS what I'd like to see.
Gladstone, when did you switch back to the PDs? I thought you were waving the Socialist flag for a good while there.

On the topic at hand, I hate the term 'stealth taxes'! I want to have a word with whoever coined it, or at least whoever introduced it to the Irish scene a few years back. They're indirect taxes, people, and they've been around for years!

We don't really need to cut the lower level of tax, but rather increase the tax credits, increase the bands, increase the capital budget for education and re-introduce third level fees, along with a loan-and-repayment scheme similar to that in Australia or the UK.
 

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TheBear said:
Gladstone said:
I see were cutting the top rate of tax...why aren't we cutting stealth taxes or the lower rate? :?: :?: :?: :?:

THATS what I'd like to see.
Gladstone, when did you switch back to the PDs? I thought you were waving the Socialist flag for a good while there.

On the topic at hand, I hate the term 'stealth taxes'! I want to have a word with whoever coined it, or at least whoever introduced it to the Irish scene a few years back. They're indirect taxes, people, and they've been around for years!

We don't really need to cut the lower level of tax, but rather increase the tax credits, increase the bands, increase the capital budget for education and re-introduce third level fees, along with a loan-and-repayment scheme similar to that in Australia or the UK.
Oh thats really smart, drown people in debt when they're just starting out in the workplace... :roll:

Gladstone, when did you switch back to the PDs? I thought you were waving the Socialist flag for a good while there.
Meh, easy come easy go.
 

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TheBear said:
On the topic at hand, I hate the term 'stealth taxes'! I want to have a word with whoever coined it, or at least whoever introduced it to the Irish scene a few years back. They're indirect taxes, people, and they've been around for years!
I first heard it used to describe the practice of leaving tax bands and credits unadjusted for inflation, (stealthily) increasing the tax burden in real terms. Not really for indirect taxes.
 

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When I say stealth tax I mean regresssive indirect taxes and charges since 2000 that have been increaced or inttroduced, for the soul purpose of pretending were a low tax country while out actual overall tax burden remains the same.

We need to face reality here, you can't have awesome public services and a low tax economy at the same time, you CAN have awesome private services but they just won't say that.
 

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Gladstone said:
TheBear said:
re-introduce third level fees, along with a loan-and-repayment scheme similar to that in Australia or the UK.
Oh thats really smart, drown people in debt when they're just starting out in the workplace... :roll:
Do you know what the repayment schemes in Oz and the UK are? You only start paying back the loans (which include maintenance allowance) when you're earning over a certain amount, say the average wage. You can defer payment even after this if your life circumstances make it difficult to meet repayments.

Even after you start paying it back, you can stop for a couple of years, for instance if you have a child. You pay back the loan through taxes, and the amount taken has a certain maximum. (I can't remember what the max is right now, but I would envisage that repayments can't be so much that they bring you back below average wage.)

The inclusion of a maintenance allowance means that students aren't forced to work while in college (though of course they still can if they really want to). If you or your family can afford college, you don't have to take out a loan.

The basic premise is that those who go to university earn more money than those who don't. If this turns out not to be true in your case, chances are that you won't end up having to repay the loans. The repayments aren't to private companies, and so no legs will be broken if you're having trouble keeping up.

While it will mean investment by the government at a slightly higher rate for the first few years, the loans will start to be repaid with 5 years or so. In the long-term (a concept not known to many in Irish politics), this will free up more money for investment in the lower levels of education.
 

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Lets stop deluding ourselves here, our decrepid public primary and secondary schools are never gonna get enough money to function as good as the private ones, we should cut them loose from the Department of Education implement a Universal Education Voucher system and let people choose their own schools, give the money directly to the parents not the beurocrats in the DOE, and just let the DOE look after teacher standerds and pay then we'd get better schools..

As for third level, since we already have fees (all be it very low fees) we may aswell cut to the chase and reintroduce them I suppose, instead of pretending we have free fees.
 

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David Cochrane said:
In the meantime, what's on your wishlist for the budget? If you were to make a budget submission, what would you be asking for?
I think I'll just link to my post here Not all of them are budget related but most are.

And for all those sheeple captivated like rabbits in the headlights by the Great Stamp Duty Myth: all available evidence clearly shows that the housing market ground to a halt in May/June, months before McDowell opened his mouth. The market has reached the outer limits of "affordability", even by bubble criteria, and is now in the normal 9-month pause before it goes suddenly into reverse. Tinkering with Stamp Duty will have absolutely no effect whatsoever, especially with another 0.25% ECB increase due on Thursday.
 

The Trinity Politick

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Huge increase in spend on Capital projects including:

1. Metro network- the DTO network with 3 metro lines
2. Lucan Luas and City Centre connection Luas cash
3. Completion of the motorway network by 2010

Generally...increased spend so Transport 21 can be completed in much less time.

Also:
1. Massive increase in VAT etc on cigarettes
2. Child care allowances but no help for child care costs
3. Greater pensions, one parent family payments, and social welfare payments
 

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My budget wish list would be,

Increase spending on tourism,

Give tax releif on childcare,

Tax high carbon emmission cars and jeeps.

Double spending on defence. It is pitiful at the moment.

Raise vat on ciggies and booze, far too much of each is consumed in Ireland.

That all airports in the state be linked to the nearest city by a rail link ASAP.

Give more funds to Dublin City Council to get the walls along the liffey in central Dublin done up to a proper standard and make them more attractive to visitors. Also some water treatement to the actual waters of the liffey to take away the awful smell at times

Invest in the NE to show the Unionsits that the Irish government means business.
 


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