Build the wall!.................in Doonbeg

Clanrickard

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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/trump-doonbeg-golf-links-gets-go-ahead-for-38-000-tonne-wall-1.3335412

Planning permission has been given to Trump International in Doonbeg to built a wall to protect the club from coastal erosion. The local community backed overwhelmingly but there were objections no doubt brought on by the name of the owner. Needless to say it is going to be appealed to An Bord Pleanala.

However, Tony Loves of FIE said the group will be appealing the decision to An Bord Pleanála. He said his group was ‘in shock’ over the ruling.
“We relied on the best international scientific advice which said with absolute certainty that proposed seawalls will destroy the beach in front of them and will increase the rate of erosion on adjacent beaches,” he said.
“Any intervention through physical barriers will impede the natural evolution of the dune system and put at risk protected species, even without considering the loss to Doughmore strand and its great dunes.”
Allowing for the fact that Trump owns the place, it brings into focus coastal erosion and the problems that are being caused by erosion especially in the west of Ireland. There are people saying we need to retreat and we can't build walls to stop this and others proposing concrete and stone defences like the one proposed in Doonbeg. Having listened to experts in the areaa it seems there are great and differing views on this but it something we will all have to face especially in West Clare where rock armour has become a feature of the landscape. My own opinion is that the proposed sea wall is unsatisfactory but I have no heard anymore convincing proposals.
 


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The Wild Atlantic Way was a remarkable marketing success for tourist and local trading interests all along the western seaboard. With the sea rising, we could wall it off for a time - even centuries, as the Dutch have done. It will keep the tide out but it will disfigure the the landscape and destroy a more valuable asset.
 

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Build the wall and make FIE pay for it.
 

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Guaranteed no Mexicans in doonbeg anyway
 

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Allowing for the fact that Trump owns the place, it brings into focus coastal erosion and the problems that are being caused by erosion especially in the west of Ireland. There are people saying we need to retreat and we can't build walls to stop this and others proposing concrete and stone defences like the one proposed in Doonbeg. Having listened to experts in the areaa it seems there are great and differing views on this but it something we will all have to face especially in West Clare where rock armour has become a feature of the landscape. My own opinion is that the proposed sea wall is unsatisfactory but I have no heard anymore convincing proposals.
With global warming we are going to look to nature for the best way to protect our coastline. Building walls tends to protect the area but move the problem to some other part of the coast. We need to look at all the coast in one go and proceed with an overall plan not just looking at each small area individually.
 

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With global warming we are going to look to nature for the best way to protect our coastline. Building walls tends to protect the area but move the problem to some other part of the coast. We need to look at all the coast in one go and proceed with an overall plan not just looking at each small area individually.
Years ago as a kid in school, we learned about the construction of artificial offshore reefs. The idea is that by planting row-upon-row of structures like those in the image a few hundred metres offshore, incoming waves 'trip' before reaching the shore, and lose a great deal of energy in the process, reducing their erosive potential considerably. In warmer waters, they are actually colonised by corals or shell fish.

Defences don't need to be visible or on the high water mark in order to be effective.

 

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Hopefully objections will be lodged to appleal this terrible decision.

https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2017/1221/929034-doonbeg-clare/

An Taisce said it regretted the decision to grant permission but it would wait until it had a chance to study the details tomorrow before deciding on an appeal.

The Green Party has expressed disappointment at the decision, with party leader Eamon Ryan saying it was considering an appeal to An Bord Pleanála.

He said: "This was always about protecting the dune ecosystem and the ecology of this most sensitive coastline site.

"Building a barrier in the middle of the beach is going to change the whole way the dune system works.

"This should have been about trying to get the golf course to evolve to the changing dune system and not destroying what is a natural process.

"We very much understand that there are a lot of local jobs involved from the golf course but we believe that they could be protected by working with nature rather than trying to control the natural system."
 

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Climate change denier wants wall to deal with climate change.
 

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Hopefully objections will be lodged to appleal this terrible decision.

https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2017/1221/929034-doonbeg-clare/
It does make you wonder though, where were an Taisce etc etc when planning was given for the golf course in the first place? If it was to be done along natural configurations liable to change, then that should have been in the original planning permission. There seems to be signs of the horse having bolted already about all this.
 

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With global warming we are going to look to nature for the best way to protect our coastline. Building walls tends to protect the area but move the problem to some other part of the coast. We need to look at all the coast in one go and proceed with an overall plan not just looking at each small area individually.
Fake news! :shock:
 

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Build the wall!.................in Doonbeg

if the wall is to be built, Trump will employ consulting engineers who will design the wall, taking account of projected sea level rise & climatic events (storms in this case), resulting from Global Warming/Climate Change,
& the measures to combat these Climate Change impacts will result in substantial additional costs,
& Trump will pay for the additional Climate Change related costs, notwithstanding the fact that he claims that Climate Change is 'fake news' - a hoax invented by the Chinese,
because he doesn't want his wall to be blown to smithereens by a one in a century gale, next year or in five or ten year's time.
 


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