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"But, we have no money....."


grumpydunphy

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Councils holding out empty pockets, increasing local taxes and commercial rates and crying poverty in these times of austerity?

Seems like someone's been telling the odd porky or two....

WicklowNews.net | Town councils have

If anyone knows of a link online anywhere to this list I would appreciate a pointer in that direction.
 

fizzgig

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If the got rid of a lot of the councils, we'd have a lot more money!
 

stopdoingstuff

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Sounds like a massive number but it is not. In the most stable states in Europe, namely Sweden and Switzerland, local authorities have much more responsibility. I think it is something we need to look at.
 

True Republican

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So how much cash reserves do all our town councils have in reserve throughout the state?
 

True Republican

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We only need about 7 or 8 regional authorities in the 26 counties at most, possibly as few as 5 and less than 400 councillors.
 

Armchair Activist

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[video=youtube;s_durHbgVFA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_durHbgVFA[/video]

Rant of the day.. just watch the speaker volume.
 

wickalah

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If the got rid of a lot of the councils, we'd have a lot more money!
If we got rid of all the councils, we would have even more!

Wait, hang on, if we got rid of the Gardai, hospitals and schools we would be feckin rolling in it!

Someone tell the government!
 

hairylemon

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We only need about 7 or 8 regional authorities in the 26 counties at most, possibly as few as 5 and less than 400 councillors.
This is something that should be looked at, but why not go the whole hog, 7 or 8 regional governments, each region would be responsible for the running their respective areas, controlling everything from housing to finance/investment, the theory is this, if any particular region raises x amount in revenue, then that money would be spent on infrastructure in the region, including policing, health authorities etc

Now add in a directly elected national government, say 1 member per county, currently 26, they could run everything else from foreign affairs to making sure each region plays by the rules.

just a wild thought!
 

wickalah

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We only need about 7 or 8 regional authorities in the 26 counties at most, possibly as few as 5 and less than 400 councillors.
So, the republic should have roughly one fifth of the local representatives that the north has?

Would you also eliminate all current councils in the north and demote the assembly to local authority status?
 

Expose the lot of them

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This is something that should be looked at, but why not go the whole hog, 7 or 8 regional governments, each region would be responsible for the running their respective areas, controlling everything from housing to finance/investment, the theory is this, if any particular region raises x amount in revenue, then that money would be spent on infrastructure in the region, including policing, health authorities etc

Now add in a directly elected national government, say 1 member per county, currently 26, they could run everything else from foreign affairs to making sure each region plays by the rules.

just a wild thought!
Not a chance, the gravy train is growing and gathering speed.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2013/0206/1224329707128.htmlhttp://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2013/0206/1224329707128.html
Dublin City Council has confirmed that the cost of implementing the Government’s plan to increase the number of councillors in the city by 11 will cost more than €330,000 annually.

This figure will reach in excess of €1 million when the entire city and county area receives its increase of 50 councillors, as proposed by Minister for the Environment Phil Hogan last November.

A spokeswoman for the council said there would also be “initial set-up costs” that are not quantifiable at present.
 

Protestant/Catholic=Irish

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If the got rid of a lot of the councils, we'd have a lot more money!
If we got rid of the education system we'd have a lot more money too. What's your point?
 

firefly123

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So how much cash reserves do all our town councils have in reserve throughout the state?
Not often you and I agree in things TR but in this case you are pretty much spot on. The RIDICULOUS duplication that goes on is unforgivable.
 
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